Heirloom/traditional/open pollinated seed and seedlings sources

[Doe]

http://www.prairiehabitats.com/seeds.html

Wild seed source for varieties native to the prairies.

I'm seriously considering some of the grasses for fodder and to sow near sloughs to attract wildlife. Wild Onion, Ground Plum and Indian Breadroot as insurance against a garden failure? Why the heck not?

[pamela]

That's a great idea Doe. Every little thing you can do like that is going to be helpful.

[PseudoPhil]

No doubt plenty of overlap with others, but here's my list...

http://www.abundantlifeseeds.com/stores/1/index.cfm
http://www.heirloomseeds.com/
http://www.highmowingseeds.com/index.html
http://www.horizonherbs.com/
http://www.jlhudsonseeds.net/index.htm
http://www.lonniesbulkseeds.com/
http://www.nicholsgardennursery.com/
http://www.nwplants.com/
http://www.outsidepride.com/store/catalog/index.html
http://www.groworganic.com/
http://www.rbseed.com/
http://www.seedman.com/
http://seedrack.com/indexw.html
http://www.seedsofchange.com/default.asp
http://www.seedstrust.com/
http://www.organicseed.com/seedindex/
http://www.territorial-seed.com/stores/1/index.cfm
http://www.thymegarden.com/
http://toptropicals.com/index.htm
http://www.victoryseeds.com/
http://www.virtualseeds.com/
http://www.raintreenursery.com/

Mostly organic, with some exotics for those intrepid enough to want to try to grow chocolate, vanilla, coffee, tea, and sugarcane in Oregon.... 

Peace -

Phil

[gurgi]

I recently got this really disturbing email about Seed Savers.  who the F is Amy Goldman and why is she trying to destroy Seed Savers?

Fw: Seed Savers Exchange power grab - Kent Whealy screwed‏

Dear Folks:

There appears to have been a naked grab for power at Seed Savers
Exchange in Decorah, Iowa. The end aims are unknown but it may be that
Johnny's seeds are invovled and the aim may be to simply kill SSE or
worse - co-opt a huge bank of germplasm and patent it.

Below is the link to the open letter Kent Whealy send to members in
the SSE Yearbook. It also includes more information about the board
takeover that loks like Johnny's Seeds is behind or collusive with
Whealy's being unceremoniously - possibly illegally - fired and run
off. This information is circulating on permaculture and bioregion
lists and needs to be disseminated as far and wide as possible.

Please forgive the cross-post but this is important and the more
people who know about it the quickest - the better.

Re: Power grab at Seed Savers Exchange -[Fwd: [permaculture] changes
at seed saver's exchange]
See this URL for a digitized photocopy of Kent's letter:

http://www.mustangm ods.com/ims/ u/1016/1377/ 217012.pdf

> The following are on the current SSE board:
>
>> Amy Goldman
>> Neil Hamilton
>> Deborah Madison
>> Rob Johnson (Johnny's Seeds)
>> Cary Fowler (Global Crop Diversity Trust)
>
>
> NOTE that SeedSavers took a huge grant from the FDA, aka Monsanto
> Enforcement Division. Huge mistake.
>
> NOTE that Amy Goldman was the keynote speaker and celebrity of a
> conference featured "biotechnology solutions"
> http://conference. ifas.ufl. edu/cucurbits/ #biotech
>
> NOTE That Kent regretted ever sanctioning a Board of Directors not
of members

>> Many of you may be familiar with the work, buy garden seeds from or
even be members of Seed Saver's Exchange in Decorah Iowa. You may
have heard Kent Whealy give one of his inspiring talks. Here is a
letter that Kent sent out after he was fired. It sounds pretty
apalling. It sounds like this massive and amazing seed bank may have
fallen into the wrong hands.....one of the many perils of
centralization. The link to the letter is below.
>>
>> http://www.mustangm ods.com/ims/ u/1016/1377/ 217012.pdf

[bshirt]

My goodness....what a superb thread.

Thanks everybody!!

[Suspect Zero]

www.mvseeds.com

[muskoil]

I'd like to withdraw my nominations for 2 seed companies I previously posted.

Westcoastseeds.com
Stellarseeds.com

I ordered very early from both of these companies and West Coast Seeds only had 1/2 my order.  They did the same thing last year but I ordered late, so I thought that was why....guess not.
Stellar Seeds cashed my check at the very beginning of January and I've yet to hear anything from them.
I'm not being vindictive here...just concerned that some people will order from these companies that I vouched for.

[miles]

For anyone else looking for subtropical/tropical species:

tropilab.com

Aside from seed from tropical sources, they also sell herbal remedies, tinctures, and such as well.  The site is well ladi out and very informative...

[pamela]

great site miles!
thanks for posting it.

[miles]

My pleasure!
I was delighted to find such a place -- and in my neck of the woods!

[rockn]

 

[lady-t]

just ordered my seeds for next year's garden.  rareseeds.com

Baker Creek Heirloom Seed Co.
Shopping Cart Contents (nothing is final until you submit your order)
item# item description unit price u/m qty cost adjust quantity here
AML107  - Crenshaw  $1.45  ea. 1  $1.45         change qty
 then click
 
AML150  - Missouri Gold  $3.00  ea. 1  $3.00         change qty
 then click
 
AR101  - Green Globe  $2.00  ea. 1  $2.00         change qty
 then click
 
AR103  - Gobbo di Nizzia  $2.50  ea. 1  $2.50         change qty
 then click
 
BR102  - Early Purple Sprouting  $2.50  ea. 1  $2.50         change qty
 then click
 
BT103  - Early Wonder - 1/4 lb  $6.50  ea. 1  $6.50         change qty
 then click
 
BT110  - Detroit Dark Red - 1/4 lb  $6.50  ea. 1  $6.50         change qty
 then click
 
CB102  - Brunswick  $1.75  ea. 1  $1.75         change qty
 then click
 
CB105  - Mammoth Red Rock  $2.00  ea. 2  $4.00         change qty
 then click
 
CN129  - Yellow Hickory King Dent Corn  $3.00  ea. 3  $9.00         change qty
 then click
 
CR101  - St. Valery  $2.00  ea. 1  $2.00         change qty
 then click
 
CW103  - Blue Goose (Gray Crowder)  $2.50  ea. 2  $5.00         change qty
 then click
 
FL735  - Mammoth Gray Striped  $1.50  ea. 1  $1.50         change qty
 then click
 
GR110  - Red Wonder Wild Strawberry  $2.00  ea. 1  $2.00         change qty
 then click
 
GR121  - Purple Kiwi  $4.00  ea. 1  $4.00         change qty
 then click
 
HB115  - Wormwood  $1.50  ea. 1  $1.50         change qty
 then click
 
HB126  - Dill - Bouquet  $1.50  ea. 1  $1.50         change qty
 then click
 
HB135  - Chives - Common  $1.25  ea. 2  $2.50         change qty
 then click
 
HB148  - Soapwart  $1.50  ea. 1  $1.50         change qty
 then click
 
HB158  - Feverfew  $2.00  ea. 1  $2.00         change qty
 then click
 
HPP103  - Anaheim  $2.00  ea. 1  $2.00         change qty
 then click
 
LG102  - Chinese Green Noodle  $2.50  ea. 1  $2.50         change qty
 then click
 
LK102  - Giant Musselburgh  $2.00  ea. 1  $2.00         change qty
 then click
 
ON113  - Gold Princess  $2.50  ea. 1  $2.50         change qty
 then click
 
PP118  - Thai Long Sweet  $1.50  ea. 1  $1.50         change qty
 then click
 
PP119  - Red Cheese Pepper  $2.50  ea. 1  $2.50         change qty
 then click
 
PR102  - Harris Model  $1.50  ea. 1  $1.50         change qty
 then click
 
SP102  - New Zealand Spinach - 1/4 lb  $8.00  ea. 1  $8.00         change qty
 then click
 
SQ120  - Hubbard True Green Improved  $2.00  ea. 1  $2.00         change qty
 then click
 
SQ126  - Table Queen  $1.50  ea. 1  $1.50         change qty
 then click
 
SSQ115  - Early Prolific Straightneck  $1.50  ea. 1  $1.50         change qty
 then click
 
SSQ124  - Green Bush Vegetable Marrow  $2.00  ea. 1  $2.00         change qty
 then click
 
TM118  - Pearson  $1.50  ea. 1  $1.50         change qty
 then click
 
TM133  - Siletz  $2.50  ea. 1  $2.50         change qty
 then click
 
TM165  - Hazelfield Farm  $1.75  ea. 2  $3.50         change qty
 then click
 


PAMELA--what happened to telford mills seeds  i went looking for it but couldn't find it.

i also figured out what i did wrong with my tomato crop last year, i didn't have determinate varieties so that the crop ripens mostly all at once.  so i couldn't can any for winter.  so i ordered two types of determinate types and one indeterminate for slicing and fresh eating.  i am also going to try to grow artichokes again this year.  i love them and hopefully i can get them going.  the wind killed them last year while they were only tiny.  i am going to buy some grow lights and really get the babies up and started this time.  i hope.

[peas be with you]

Ireland

http://www.irishseedsavers.ie/index.php  - you have to join, more of a seed club but they do sell any extra after March

http://www.brownenvelopeseeds.com/

[Buffalo_Ken]

I apologize if this has already been posted.  Although if it has, I still think it bears repeating.  Both of em.  Both of the sites linked below.

http://dwardmac.pitzer.edu/Anarchist_archives/kropotkin/mutaidcontents.html

http://gears.tucson.ars.ag.gov/book/

http://www.peoplesproclamation.com/

Peace!

Ken