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« Reply #30 on: October 15, 2007, 03:58:46 PM »

I've read a bit about the perils of radiation in interplanetary travel. It's incredible difficult to protect astronauts from solar flares once they're outside of earth's orbit. There is one surprisingly effective low-tech way - water. Water makes an effective barrier against Cosmic radiation and solar flares. The problem is the mass involved in heaving it into space.

I wonder if you'd be able to ring your house with rainwater cachment tanks, and kill two birds with one stone.

FWIW, I'd be really interested if anybody out there in LATOCville knows more about this.
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« Reply #31 on: October 15, 2007, 04:02:11 PM »

Matt, it would work if you wrapped yourself completely, but if you dont you are worse off than by wearing non conductive clothes. 

You would need a complete wrap, and be electrically isolated from the conductive wrap.  Not practical, and as pictured in the link, useless.

Gave me an idea thought now that I have discovered this fabric.  I spend some 1/3rd of my life in bed.  It should be a simple matter to put this over my old fashioned canopy bed, make sure it is electrically continous to a sheet under the carpet, and have a completely isolated sleeping area.  Im gonna look for this fabric in bulk, get a seamstress to quilt it into something that looks good...

I don't doubt the veracity of what you say but I am curious as to why it would make things worse off. I don't know enough about how radiation and emf work to speculate. . . .

As far as the bed thing: they do have a canopy for sale along with sheets you can put on the floor. Would it be possible to use those to make up something similiar?
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« Reply #32 on: October 15, 2007, 04:21:37 PM »

I musta missed that canopy for the bed, I will look again..

The goal is to build a Faraday cage.  One method is to wrap the object in question in a conductive wrap, but make sure the object inside is not conductively in contact with the wrap.  EMF wont penetrate inside. 

Another way is to wrap the object in a poor conductor, but in either case the wrap needs to be all the way around or EMF will get in..

The trouble with say underwear is it doesnt wrap you, EMF will still hit the rest of your body uninhibited and the undies, being conductive, will actually somewhat concentrate the EMF on your undies.  It may protect the core of the area it surrounds a bit, but suface areas in contact with the undies will get higher levels..  thats why I say you are worse off with them than without them...

You must put yourself in a complete cage, that either EMF is attracted to, or that EMF cannot penetrate.  Note that EMF is line of sight, but is deflected or absorbed when it hits something.  The ground is called ground for a reason, the ground under you is highly conductive.  EMF likes to travel along conductive pathways..

A bed canopy in contact with a floor sheet of conductive material would be a great farraday cage, provided you dont touch it and there were no gaps in it..

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« Reply #33 on: October 15, 2007, 04:38:10 PM »


I wonder if you'd be able to ring your house with rainwater cachment tanks, and kill two birds with one stone.

Weaknesses I see:  A solid wrap of water still needs a door, and the roof is still wide open for EMF entry.  EMF is mostly, except for scattered reflection, line of sight, and those towers are tall for this reason.  Now water all the way around the house prevents EMF from entering the walls, and water could be arranged so no line of sight EMF could come in the doors, but we still have the roof and floor.  Standard wood construction  keeps you isolated from most of whats gonna be coming from under you, as your water walls wouldnt let any in except what was in the ground, the EMF will practically all be dispersed in the ground, but the roof is still wide open to EMF getting in.. 

Ya still gotta do something about the roof...
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« Reply #34 on: October 15, 2007, 05:01:35 PM »

I'm thinking you could just buy some heavy gauge aluminium foil and roll it out and tack it down with some latex adhesive. Much cheaper and faster and you could layer it. Hell you could prolly get 10 layers of it on a 2000 square foot roof done in a weekend.


Try Dennyfoil:

http://www.dennywholesale.com/dennyfoil.htm
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« Reply #35 on: October 15, 2007, 05:03:56 PM »

Wow, this is complicated.

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« Reply #36 on: October 15, 2007, 05:49:51 PM »

Canopy bed/ faraday cage.



brilliant!
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« Reply #37 on: October 15, 2007, 06:25:49 PM »

I have some of the products from lessemf
the bed sheet, the hat and the rfid wallet
the sheet does what it says, the ryid wallet works
the hat,mabey,but at least its made in the
u.s.a....the science behind rf testing and safty is the
most researched by the science and military,entertainment/radio,tv,power distribution and generation worldwide.with the grounding garments one
needs to wear a ground strap on the wrist or by the foot
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« Reply #38 on: October 15, 2007, 06:56:21 PM »

In order to stay sane I take the attitude that humanity has been in an unhealthful miasma ever since it started. Back before civilization forest fires were widespread and more or less constant during certain times of the year. Wood smoke is a extremely carcinogenic and dangerous to the lungs just from the small particulates alone. Then of course in the industrial revolution we lived in complete industrial squalor in the cities. Now, today, the threats are everywhere. For example, I work nights, as a result of our discovery of electricity. I can guarantee you that the negative health effects of that outweigh everything else put together.
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« Reply #39 on: October 15, 2007, 07:09:30 PM »

Wow, this is complicated.



Improvise / adapt / overcome  . WTF kind of doomer are you anyways  ?Grin
NM you live with 6 millon other people with 3 days of water supply.  In the desert  Cheesy
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« Reply #40 on: October 15, 2007, 08:25:33 PM »


NM you live with 6 millon other people with 3 days of water supply.  In the desert  Cheesy


 Roll Eyes

Sonoma County, California isn't exactly a desert. (It's wine country, in case you didn't know)

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« Reply #41 on: October 16, 2007, 12:29:49 PM »


NM you live with 6 millon other people with 3 days of water supply.  In the desert  Cheesy


 Roll Eyes

Sonoma County, California isn't exactly a desert. (It's wine country, in case you didn't know)



My bad I was under the impression you lived in Los Angeles proper  for some reason  Grin
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« Reply #42 on: October 16, 2007, 12:59:37 PM »

Cell Phone Tower locator:

http://www.cellreception.com/towers/?rfp=dta

There is a thing down the street from here, about a 5 minute walk from my apartment, that looks like a cell phone tower but is not found on the above map.


This is handy. I read something a while ago that in the UK they're disguising them as trees... I'll see if I can find a link.

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« Reply #43 on: October 16, 2007, 01:07:52 PM »

I'm finally glad that I live in one of those "permanently dropped signal" areas.
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« Reply #44 on: October 16, 2007, 01:39:03 PM »

How does this all measure up to the mega-quantity of natural background radiation the planet is constantly bombarded with?  Alpha, beta, gama, x-rays, etc.?  Isn't a cell-phone tower a few miles away or a TV in another room a drop in a huge bucket of constant radiation?

I think that the difference is that we've all evolved to deal with background space radiation, whereas RF/wireless is very recent. And it's also a matter of intensity and frequency.

I don't doubt the veracity of what you say but I am curious as to why it would make things worse off. I don't know enough about how radiation and emf work to speculate. . . .

If you put an outside localized EM field on your body, it can disrupt the overall EM field of your body. Everyone's body has it's own EM field, with differing frequencies. A lot of these RF/EM emitters interfere with our own fields. I hope it goes without saying to avoid those horrible magnets in your shoes, belts, sheets, etc. and of course, any kind of electric blanket or heating pad on your bed. Use hot water bottles instead, if you must warm your bed in the winter. And avoid MRIs, if you possibly can. MRIs can potentially be very damaging, as can any strong EM field, on the human body and its own EM. Of course, I realize at times that undergoing MRI diagnostics may be a necessary evil. But be prepared to pay the price.

Just as we have been doing with petrochemicals and radiation since the advent of the Industrial Revolution, we are embarking on what amounts to a vast planetwide experiment with these frequencies, without much consciousness brought to bear. As another poster said, we can hope that systemic blackouts will ultimately help with this, but there's still the question of what to do with it while it's here. And unfortunately, there's really no way to shield ourselves from all of it. I know how wonderful it feels to me when the power goes out--if you pay attention you will notice that you start to feel really good when electricity isn't humming through your walls. You realize that it's a constant background that you just tune out most of the time.

Robert O. Becker M.D. wrote two books on this subject that I HIGHLY recommend to everyone interested in this. He started out in The Body Electric: Electromagnetism and the Foundation of Life doing research on how electrical stimulation induces regeneration in salamanders, then moved on to studying human EM fields and the potential for healing. At first, he was skeptical of patients who came to him complaining of "Electromagnetic Sensitivity". He thought it was bull. But as he did more research, he grew concerned enough to write Cross Currents: The Perils of Electropollution.

It's getting harder and harder to avoid this. Even if you're not in a highly industrialized area, the miasma spreads. There's speculation that it's interfering with a lot of natural processes--avian migration, for one--as well.

One thing I would recommend is embarking on some kind of meditation program. Before everyone starts to mock and poke fun, I'd like to point out that there is scientific evidence that trained meditators can practice pretty impressive biofeedback techniques to affect their bodies. You're stilling your mind, and you're also smoothing out your EM field. I know if I've been at the computer too long and I'm feeling frazzled, I go outside and meditate for about 15 minutes and I can just feel everything smoothing out. Not scientific, I know, but it might be worth a try. And it's cheaper than lining your whole house in tinfoil--which is better than nothing, but far from totally protective. Most houses these days have windows, and none are hermetically sealed.
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