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The gold is not the reason we are interested in setting up permenant camp in the war torn poverty stricken country. We want to help the people!! You know like Iraq! We are going to bring them democracy and a large pentagon presence. Get ready for Green Zone II: Adventures in Exploitation. http://www.thestar.com/News/article/238365
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« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2010, 03:27:54 AM » |
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why, you'd almost think that earthquake happened on purpose wouldn't you? (not really kidding you know)
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« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2010, 03:57:31 AM » |
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why, you'd almost think that earthquake happened on purpose wouldn't you? (not really kidding you know)
I share your suspicion Pam. If true, the greed will soon spoil the secret. At that point, all Hell breaks loose.
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« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2010, 06:14:34 AM » |
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Suddenly Haiti has gone from a destistue banana republic to "the most coveted piece of land in the world" 
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« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2010, 06:15:10 AM » |
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« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2010, 06:39:27 AM » |
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In 1 year from now, we'll get if help was just a covert operation to grab ressources for free later. By the way, seems USA were more prompt to get in Haiti than New Orleans don't you think? ;-p I bet there's not much oil next to Baton Rouge! ^^
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« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2010, 07:00:42 AM » |
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In 1 year from now, we'll get if help was just a covert operation to grab ressources for free later. By the way, seems USA were more prompt to get in Haiti than New Orleans don't you think? ;-p I bet there's not much oil next to Baton Rouge! ^^
there is we just already control it. i think if you do some investigating youll discover that there isnt really a scarcity of most resources in the world (except crops and thats purposeful due to GMO, terminator seeds and weather manipulation). Whats been done by TPTB is to take control of as many areas that hold key resources to the growth of the world economy and lock them away, hidden from the public. They only reveal and exploit a limited amount of any reasource at a time because as any first year Econ student knows if you control supply of a product you control everything else. This is the true "supply side economics" (aka trickle-down) and a great inside joke to the elite. One way to confirm this for yourself is to Google "the texas railroad commission" and learn how the oil barons controlled the price of oil before major pipelines were built by controlling how many railcars were available for transporting oil at any given time. The system involved controlling the commission and the reporting of cars in and out and was based on how the fat cats ripped off the farmers at harvest time trying to ship their Ag products to market. Also later the Saudis came over here and studied the Tex RR Commisson and based their supply side controlling authority on its workings. Its called OPEC.
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« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2010, 08:12:08 AM » |
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Gold, oil, uranium, O my!
Diamonds? Gold-plated latinum?
Honestly. If all that were there, we'd have had it out decades ago. We'd have a military base there, "protecting" our sphere of interest.
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« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2010, 08:27:51 AM » |
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I agree Grower, if Haiti had those resources we'd already be there.
I'm thinking though that the eq has provided US with an opportunity just as one is needed-Chavez, and narco-trafficking to name just two reasons.
But not gold.
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« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2010, 08:57:48 AM » |
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Just a point of contention Plastixx.. I don't know how serious you were being when stating this... i think if you do some investigating youll discover that there isnt really a scarcity of most resources in the world . But this concept has been beaten to death on this site. Those that think "oh the .gov is sitting on a kajillion barrels of oil off the coast of Alaska" or "Oh there are hundreds of years of oil tucked away in ultra deep wells we can tap at any point" are part of what we affectionately call "solidly in the bargaining or denial phase" of peak oil. There are no secret fields that the .gov's go to when they need to up production. The planet has been scoured and unless HUNDREDS and HUNDREDS of geologists are in on the secret, your "hope" that the .gov has some secret stash hiding somewhere is just that.. HOPE.. You assign way to much intelegence to the PTB... Once you accept that peak oil is actually happening and all the scary things that implies, the more pleasant you'll actually find life... Come into the light my child  ... Meant to be a friendly reminder that this site is a Peak Oil site.. Plenty O places on the web to debate the reality of P.O. we tend to frown on arguments about its validity. those that are here have solidly made up their mind about its reality. We are here to debate its affect and it's timing. Robert In 1 year from now, we'll get if help was just a covert operation to grab ressources for free later. By the way, seems USA were more prompt to get in Haiti than New Orleans don't you think? ;-p I bet there's not much oil next to Baton Rouge! ^^
there is we just already control it. i think if you do some investigating youll discover that there isnt really a scarcity of most resources in the world (except crops and thats purposeful due to GMO, terminator seeds and weather manipulation). Whats been done by TPTB is to take control of as many areas that hold key resources to the growth of the world economy and lock them away, hidden from the public. They only reveal and exploit a limited amount of any reasource at a time because as any first year Econ student knows if you control supply of a product you control everything else. This is the true "supply side economics" (aka trickle-down) and a great inside joke to the elite. One way to confirm this for yourself is to Google "the texas railroad commission" and learn how the oil barons controlled the price of oil before major pipelines were built by controlling how many railcars were available for transporting oil at any given time. The system involved controlling the commission and the reporting of cars in and out and was based on how the fat cats ripped off the farmers at harvest time trying to ship their Ag products to market. Also later the Saudis came over here and studied the Tex RR Commisson and based their supply side controlling authority on its workings. Its called OPEC.
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« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2010, 08:58:17 AM » |
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guess you need more evidence handed to you since you dont seem willing to investigate the matter yourselves at all. seriously how do u learn if you dont try to confirm your opinions? ive looked into this matter far beyond the specific case of Haiti and so this is just another data point for me, but please at least reexamine the evidence about suppressed resources. The elite ownership class has been doing it throughout history and now is no different. Im not arguing there cant be shortages of something but that its equally as possible for there to be surpluses and when there are the owners of the effected commodity do not like new supplies causing the prices of their products to fall. That only benefits the plebs! Anyway heres another link for you on the discovery of gold in Haiti. There is also an AP story on the topic but I cannot link to that but you can google it with a little work. The reason they havent extracted the gold already is the sordid history of Haiti itself the past 30 years. Before then I dont think this cache was known. What may have happened is a satellite image in the 70's or could have revealed favorable sub surface rock formations. The types of satelittes NASA uses to explore Mars and the Moon are also used by the oil and resource companies to search for minerals and oil. They do a much better job then surveyors, at least in some cases. But read the story.. Apr 23, 2009 16:00 ETMajescor to Acquire Interest in a Strategic Gold-Copper Property in HaitiMONTREAL, QUEBEC--(Marketwire - April 23, 2009) - Majescor Resources Inc. ("Majescor" or the "Company") (TSX VENTURE:MJX) is pleased to report that it has signed an agreement (the "Agreement") with SIMACT Alliance Copper Gold Inc. ("SIMACT") and its principal shareholders (the "Principals") whereby the Company will acquire a 10% interest in SIMACT, as well an option to acquire the remaining 90% interest. SIMACT, through its 66.4%-owned Haitian affiliate mining company, Societe Miniere du Nord-Est S.A. ("SOMINE"), controls a property with both gold and copper potential, (the "SOMINE Property") located in the North-East mineral district of Haiti. The SOMINE Property lies within a highly prospective volcanic arc environment, host to numerous epithermal gold and porphyry copper occurrences in Haiti, as well as the World-Class Pueblo Viejo gold deposit in the adjacent Dominican Republic. The property holds the historical Blondin and Douvray copper-gold prospects; the historical Faille-B gold prospect; along with a number of recently-discovered copper-gold showings.
Marc-Andre Bernier, President and CEO of the Company states: "Majescor has an established, ten-year long tradition of exploring emerging mineral districts. The deal with SIMACT and its Principals offers a new and unique opportunity for the Company to participate in the evaluation and development of a key property located in the prospective Massif-du-Nord volcanic complex of north-east Haiti. We believe that the time is right to invest in Haiti and in projects with gold and copper potential.
Regional Geology and Historical Prospects
The SOMINE Property area corresponds to a volcanic arc of Meso-Cenozoic Age that can be traced from Central Cuba through the Dominican Republic and forms part of the NW-trending Mountains of the Massif-du-Nord group. This group is composed mainly of volcanic tuffs and lavas from the volcanic belt, ranging in composition from felsic, through intermediate, to mafic and ultramafic rocks. The belt is composed of numerous lenticular bodies of lava and pyroclastic material of felsic composition, varying from dacite to rhyolite, embedded in a thick series of predominantly mafic volcanoclastic rocks, mainly andesite with lesser amounts of basalts, with numerous intercalations of diverse sedimentary rocks, like radiolarian cherts, carbonate rocks, and tuffs.
Copper and gold are the two main ore types in the area. Copper is usually found associated with the porphyritic facies, the microtonalitic apophyses, and the silicified zones, filling fissures and fractures, as well as disseminated. Within the quartz vein systems, the copper is contained in the chalcopyrite, while the gold appears both as native gold and as a very fine disseminated gold in the sulphide zone. It can also form spectacular concentrations on the oxidised cap. The native gold is usually found associated with chlorite, as well as in grains of pyrite and chalcopyrite. A second generation of gold is usually found associated to the quartz and the chlorite. The gold content is extremely variable http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/Majescor-to-Acquire-Interest-in-a-Strategic-Gold-Copper-Property-in-Haiti-TSX-VENTURE-MJX-979157.htm
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« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2010, 09:05:55 AM » |
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Just a point of contention Plastixx.. I don't know how serious you were being when stating this... i think if you do some investigating youll discover that there isnt really a scarcity of most resources in the world . But this concept has been beaten to death on this site. Those that think "oh the .gov is sitting on a kajillion barrels of oil off the coast of Alaska" or "Oh there are hundreds of years of oil tucked away in ultra deep wells we can tap at any point" are part of what we affectionately call "solidly in the bargaining or denial phase" of peak oil. There are no secret fields that the .gov's go to when they need to up production. The planet has been scoured and unless HUNDREDS and HUNDREDS of geologists are in on the secret, your "hope" that the .gov has some secret stash hiding somewhere is just that.. HOPE.. You assign way to much intelegence to the PTB... Once you accept that peak oil is actually happening and all the scary things that implies, the more pleasant you'll actually find life... Come into the light my child  ... Meant to be a friendly reminder that this site is a Peak Oil site.. Plenty O places on the web to debate the reality of P.O. we tend to frown on arguments about its validity. those that are here have solidly made up their mind about its reality. We are here to debate its affect and it's timing. Robert In 1 year from now, we'll get if help was just a covert operation to grab ressources for free later. By the way, seems USA were more prompt to get in Haiti than New Orleans don't you think? ;-p I bet there's not much oil next to Baton Rouge! ^^
there is we just already control it. i think if you do some investigating youll discover that there isnt really a scarcity of most resources in the world (except crops and thats purposeful due to GMO, terminator seeds and weather manipulation). Whats been done by TPTB is to take control of as many areas that hold key resources to the growth of the world economy and lock them away, hidden from the public. They only reveal and exploit a limited amount of any reasource at a time because as any first year Econ student knows if you control supply of a product you control everything else. This is the true "supply side economics" (aka trickle-down) and a great inside joke to the elite. One way to confirm this for yourself is to Google "the texas railroad commission" and learn how the oil barons controlled the price of oil before major pipelines were built by controlling how many railcars were available for transporting oil at any given time. The system involved controlling the commission and the reporting of cars in and out and was based on how the fat cats ripped off the farmers at harvest time trying to ship their Ag products to market. Also later the Saudis came over here and studied the Tex RR Commisson and based their supply side controlling authority on its workings. Its called OPEC. i dont have a real feeling or hope on the topic one way or the other. Its far beyond my control. ive done actual research and found some counter indicating information to yours. Im just offering my opinion. I dont care whats been beaten to death. Beat away if it makes u feel better. We are all rational creatures here right? Do with my information what you will.. I offer it in the spirit of understanding and friendship. Just please dont talk down to me like im some poor confused person. We disagree on the matter thats all. It happens all the time. Ultimately neither of us may know whether we are correct or not to our own satisfaction or to those with the opposing point of view. What makes it all bearable is to keep the dialogue open and keep checking yourself. I respect your point of view. If you cant respect mine, at least respect that I state it clearly and without malice.
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« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2010, 09:10:46 AM » |
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I am REALLY just trying to save you some grief here. You seem to be a very well informed person and I really like that you play nice here. We need many more newer members who are willing to debate in a productive way and you seem to fit the bill. THAT SAID. As a Global Moderator and having been an advocate of peak oil FOR OVER 5 YEARS, I think you can rest assured that I've looked at all the evidence that a person in my position can attain. I came to a site like this 5 years ago with the express purpose of proving this "Peak Oil" conspiracy theory away. 5 years later I am the Global Moderator of one of the largest Peak Oil sites in the world. I can ASSURE you that I take this serious and I have examinded all the pertinent and even conspiracy minded facts that are out there... I WILL RE-ASSERT that this is a Peak Oil forum. There are plenty of places to debate this stuff. And I will be more clear with my warning this time. The people on this site are here PRECISELY because they no longer want a college debate forum on the subject. We have fully accepted the reality of Peak Oil and its implications. we are here to discuss strategies for dealing with it. This sub-forum is here to discuss the economic fallout of Peak Oil on world financial markets. I hope you can understand where I am coming from... As a Moderator I am tasked with holding up the rules here... Thanks. Robert guess you need more evidence handed to you since you dont seem willing to investigate the matter yourselves at all. seriously how do u learn if you dont try to confirm your opinions? ive looked into this matter far beyond the specific case of Haiti and so this is just another data point for me, but please at least reexamine the evidence about suppressed resources. The elite ownership class has been doing it throughout history and now is no different. Im not arguing there cant be shortages of something but that its equally as possible for there to be surpluses and when there are the owners of the effected commodity do not like new supplies causing the prices of their products to fall. That only benefits the plebs! Anyway heres another link for you on the discovery of gold in Haiti. There is also an AP story on the topic but I cannot link to that but you can google it with a little work. The reason they havent extracted the gold already is the sordid history of Haiti itself the past 30 years. Before then I dont think this cache was known. What may have happened is a satellite image in the 70's or could have revealed favorable sub surface rock formations. The types of satelittes NASA uses to explore Mars and the Moon are also used by the oil and resource companies to search for minerals and oil. They do a much better job then surveyors, at least in some cases. But read the story.. Apr 23, 2009 16:00 ETMajescor to Acquire Interest in a Strategic Gold-Copper Property in HaitiMONTREAL, QUEBEC--(Marketwire - April 23, 2009) - Majescor Resources Inc. ("Majescor" or the "Company") (TSX VENTURE:MJX) is pleased to report that it has signed an agreement (the "Agreement") with SIMACT Alliance Copper Gold Inc. ("SIMACT") and its principal shareholders (the "Principals") whereby the Company will acquire a 10% interest in SIMACT, as well an option to acquire the remaining 90% interest. SIMACT, through its 66.4%-owned Haitian affiliate mining company, Societe Miniere du Nord-Est S.A. ("SOMINE"), controls a property with both gold and copper potential, (the "SOMINE Property") located in the North-East mineral district of Haiti. The SOMINE Property lies within a highly prospective volcanic arc environment, host to numerous epithermal gold and porphyry copper occurrences in Haiti, as well as the World-Class Pueblo Viejo gold deposit in the adjacent Dominican Republic. The property holds the historical Blondin and Douvray copper-gold prospects; the historical Faille-B gold prospect; along with a number of recently-discovered copper-gold showings.
Marc-Andre Bernier, President and CEO of the Company states: "Majescor has an established, ten-year long tradition of exploring emerging mineral districts. The deal with SIMACT and its Principals offers a new and unique opportunity for the Company to participate in the evaluation and development of a key property located in the prospective Massif-du-Nord volcanic complex of north-east Haiti. We believe that the time is right to invest in Haiti and in projects with gold and copper potential.
Regional Geology and Historical Prospects
The SOMINE Property area corresponds to a volcanic arc of Meso-Cenozoic Age that can be traced from Central Cuba through the Dominican Republic and forms part of the NW-trending Mountains of the Massif-du-Nord group. This group is composed mainly of volcanic tuffs and lavas from the volcanic belt, ranging in composition from felsic, through intermediate, to mafic and ultramafic rocks. The belt is composed of numerous lenticular bodies of lava and pyroclastic material of felsic composition, varying from dacite to rhyolite, embedded in a thick series of predominantly mafic volcanoclastic rocks, mainly andesite with lesser amounts of basalts, with numerous intercalations of diverse sedimentary rocks, like radiolarian cherts, carbonate rocks, and tuffs.
Copper and gold are the two main ore types in the area. Copper is usually found associated with the porphyritic facies, the microtonalitic apophyses, and the silicified zones, filling fissures and fractures, as well as disseminated. Within the quartz vein systems, the copper is contained in the chalcopyrite, while the gold appears both as native gold and as a very fine disseminated gold in the sulphide zone. It can also form spectacular concentrations on the oxidised cap. The native gold is usually found associated with chlorite, as well as in grains of pyrite and chalcopyrite. A second generation of gold is usually found associated to the quartz and the chlorite. The gold content is extremely variable http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/Majescor-to-Acquire-Interest-in-a-Strategic-Gold-Copper-Property-in-Haiti-TSX-VENTURE-MJX-979157.htm
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