Global warming data manipulated - proof?

[WASF]

http://market-ticker.org/archives/1648-Global-Warming-SCAM-HackLeak-FLASH.html

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/11/climate-hack/

Hackers stole emails and data from UK climate research center.  Some of the emails indicate manipulation/falsification of data to show AGW. 

"I’ve just completed Mike’s Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards) and from 1961 for Keith’s to hide the decline."

[Roberto Thorn]

We've been duped by Gore et. al. into this theory so that they can sit atop the "new green economy" based on carbon credits.  Just another swindle.

[picasso moon]

Yeah, right!

[Arraya]

Yes, those three quotes, prove that the half-century old, highly studied, highly complex phenomena, is a contrived socialist agenda.

[Hogie2010]

It's hard to convince the people that global warming is a scam. We've all be duped for so long that we just assume it's the truth.

It's not the truth but dogma.

One day soon the scam will be exposed to the public.

[Capella]

One day soon the scam will be exposed to the public.

Yeah right ... will that be before Manhattan is flooded or afterwards?

[Roberto Thorn]

Yes, those three quotes, prove that the half-century old, highly studied, highly complex phenomena, is a contrived socialist agenda.

Who said anything about a contrived socialist agenda.  It's the agenda of the wealthy to get wealthier.

[Arraya]

Yes, those three quotes, prove that the half-century old, highly studied, highly complex phenomena, is a contrived socialist agenda.

Who said anything about a contrived socialist agenda.  It's the agenda of the wealthy to get wealthier.

What is an agenda?  The 5 decades of science behind CC or cap and trade legislation?  Can you tell the difference between the two?

[rbrgs]

It's warmer where I live...in the middle of the Pacific Ocean.  I see lizards ever day that "should" only live 1000' lower down the mountain.  My wintertime low is up 11F in 20 years (although the summertime high hasn't increased...never above 89F; but it does that more often, and any time of the year now).  And it's gotten even warmer since 2005, if anyone cares.

Poof to your "proof".....  

[Roberto Thorn]

Yes, those three quotes, prove that the half-century old, highly studied, highly complex phenomena, is a contrived socialist agenda.

Who said anything about a contrived socialist agenda.  It's the agenda of the wealthy to get wealthier.

What is an agenda?  The 5 decades of science behind CC or cap and trade legislation?  Can you tell the difference between the two?

Truth be told, I believe the stats.  But I'm not sure about Al Gore and his motives.  Is he pushing his agenda for the betterment of our Earth or his financial gain.  I'm sure it's a healthy dose of both, but it wouldn't hurt for him to offer to give back some of what he stands to gain to those less fortunate.  I find him to be a bit duplicitous.

[Megadoom]

Scientists could announce tomorrow that temperatures were rising 5 degrees every month, I and guarantee humans wouldn't do anything more than change a few light bulbs. 

All you AGW deniers who have bought into the conspiracy theories.....You've done a fine job of spreading disinformation to the world. We are doomed, and at this point, it doesn't matter whose right because we wouldn't done anything anyway. Even if we had adopted cap and trade it would've amount to jack shit. This world is vastly over-populated, polluted, coral reefs dying, fish gone, animals exterminated, and the land raped in every way.

So crank up the engines and go dump another barrel of radioactive toxin in your local stream because we've gone and done it, we've already ravaged this pristine and beautiful world. You and your children will never know what a world this once was before the last century.

[mtlouie]

I am utterly shocked at the people who still listen to any side of this shit.

Al Gore is one of THEM!  Just like all the idiots that have been trying to say CLIMATE CHANGE is a farce.


They want to keep the buying and spending going.  Period.   Not ONE of those fuckers gets up and says, "We are destroying the only planet we have with our buying and selling and making and raping and dumping!  We have to STOP now!!"

They don't say that, and you aren't going to hear it.   You are going to hear almost all scientists (that aren't in the employ of the military-industrial complex) say it's too late.  We can't stop what is coming.

Those that are in the employ are trying to obfuscate as long as they can to keep the assembly lines rolling.  'Cause, hey, the earth is just TOO BIG for us to do any harm to it.  We can keeping buying worthless shit forever.  ESPECIALLY IF IT'S GREEN!!!!  Which is how that dumb ass Lindsey Graham just jumped on Al Gore's......bandwagon. 

You people that just can't buy CLIMATE CHANGE?  You need to quit reading that stupid shit and go outside everyday for the next ten years and watch the seasons change.  Oh, wait, you don't have TIME. 

[Kushtaka]

It's hard to convince the people that global warming is a scam. We've all be duped for so long that we just assume it's the truth.

It's not the truth but dogma.

One day soon the scam will be exposed to the public.

What exactly do you base this on? The overwhelming majority of scientists out there that have proven with solid evidence that it's a scam?  

The only people saying this is a 'scam' are politicians, not scientists. Funny that you chose the words of politicians over scientists. I think it's telling of your motivation, which is politics, NOT science.

[Hogie2010]

The overwhelming majority of scientists

If your work finds in favour of GW then the governments will fund your research.

If your work finds no GW then no funding for you.

The politicians are clueless one way or another.

The PTB want global governace, one world bank and for YOU to fund that bank through carbon taxes. And to make Al Gore rich.

Think for yourself, do the homework, check the facts, doubt everything until proven.

Look at the world we now live in, it's all a facade. 

[mtlouie]

The overwhelming majority of scientists

If your work finds in favour of GW then the governments will fund your research.

If your work finds no GW then no funding for you.

The politicians are clueless one way or another.

The PTB want global governace, one world bank and for YOU to fund that bank through carbon taxes. And to make Al Gore rich.

Think for yourself, do the homework, check the facts, doubt everything until proven.

Look at the world we now live in, it's all a facade. 

Hoagie, you are so far up the ass of the matrix you wouldn't know daylight if it slapped you upside the head.