funinhounslow
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« on: November 09, 2009, 05:05:25 PM » |
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From the Guardian (UK) http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/nov/09/peak-oil-international-energy-agencyThe world is much closer to running out of oil than official estimates admit, according to a whistleblower at the International Energy Agency who claims it has been deliberately underplaying a looming shortage for fear of triggering panic buying. A second senior IEA source, who has now left but was also unwilling to give his name, said a key rule at the organisation was that it was "imperative not to anger the Americans" but the fact was that there was not as much oil in the world as had been admitted. "We have [already] entered the 'peak oil' zone. I think that the situation is really bad," he added. John Hemming, the MP who chairs the all-party parliamentary group on peak oil and gas, said the revelations confirmed his suspicions that the IEA underplayed how quickly the world was running out and this had profound implications for British government energy policy. PO gets another mention in the MSM. There's a huge government advertising campaign "Act on CO2" encouraging the public to reduce emissions for the sake of the environment. It would appear that climate change is a rather more palatable reason than peak oil to encourage energy conservation without scaring the electorate. |
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Satori
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« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2009, 05:08:53 PM » |
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good find
maybe it is better that the public be lied to?
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BANKERS AND WALL STREET-AMERICA'S CRIMINAL CLASS
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Megadoom
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« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2009, 05:13:00 PM » |
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good find
maybe it is better that the public be lied to?
LOL, yes and no, I guess. I think I could make an argument either way. Personally, it's way too late now suckers, should've listened to that humanitarian Jimmy Carter back in the 70's....but Noooooo. Most of us will die now. |
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 "...and you will know that I AM THE LORD!!!" If the end of the world were tomorrow the party would be in New Orleans! www.megadoom911.blogspot.com |
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TheDignityofStruggle
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« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2009, 05:17:23 PM » |
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Most of us will die now.
I love your frank posts. They crack me up. |
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"His rebellion was the only authentic thing in him..." -Albert Camus, from "A Happy Death.""I believe that all government is evil, and that trying to improve it is largely a waste of time." -H L MenckenArt of the collapse: http://boycottcivilization.tumblr.com |
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Hendrek
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« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2009, 05:17:33 PM » |
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good find
maybe it is better that the public be lied to?
LOL, yes and no, I guess. I think I could make an argument either way. Personally, it's way too late now suckers, should've listened to that humanitarian Jimmy Carter back in the 70's....but Noooooo. Most of us will die now. All of us will die...  |
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It is, ultimately, a question of demand.
The. Future. Is. Broken.
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roccman
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« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2009, 05:19:06 PM » |
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good find
maybe it is better that the public be lied to?
LOL, yes and no, I guess. I think I could make an argument either way. Personally, it's way too late now suckers, should've listened to that humanitarian Jimmy Carter back in the 70's....but Noooooo. Most of us will die now. All of us will die... I ain't go'n anywhere until i finish watching this show... |
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Nah, only a conspiracy theorist would think governments are shutting down the economy, as a back door way of dealing with PO. No-one saw this coming. It just "happened" through sheer, bureaucratic inertia, in which case the charge is one of incompetence. - Slow Dazzle www.dieoff.org |
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TheDignityofStruggle
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« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2009, 05:20:04 PM » |
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As per the article, its very interesting, yet not surprising. I kind of hope we can speed up the old doom clock. I can't find a job right now, and instead of dropping off resumes to do bullshit, monkey work, I'd rather be waiting out the starving MZBs before switching to a life of full time farming and foraging.
Funny, when I am more optimistic about post crash life than pre crash life.
(And yes, I realize I might die, but that doesn't bother me much).
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"His rebellion was the only authentic thing in him..." -Albert Camus, from "A Happy Death.""I believe that all government is evil, and that trying to improve it is largely a waste of time." -H L MenckenArt of the collapse: http://boycottcivilization.tumblr.com |
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dwheeler
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« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2009, 05:27:20 PM » |
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good find
maybe it is better that the public be lied to?
Wouldn't want people to ditch their 401k or get prepped. So now we have I guess peak figures as well. Is this new speak for counting BBL that never got pumped or delivered? |
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jock
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« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2009, 05:27:59 PM » |
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I ain't go'n anywhere until i finish watching this show... Yup my last act is to drag a precharged 110amp battery to the top of ben nevis along with a mega megaphone and discharge my last blast in an almighty fossil fueled yell of "I TOLD YOU SO"  |
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If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs.
Try parking your helicopter somewhere else.
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Salato
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« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2009, 05:48:10 PM » |
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/nov/09/peak-oil-international-energy-agencySome quite impressive news just before the IEA releases its 2009 report. The article includes information about two whistleblowers who claim the USA had pressured the IEA to downplay decline rates of existing fields and inflate chances of new discoveries, in an effort to avoid mentioning how close we are to peak oil for fear of panicking the financial markets and the masses. One of the sources believes we have already entered the peak oil zone. Looks like fun times ahead then everyone!
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mousewizard
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Peak everything.
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« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2009, 06:00:17 PM » |
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Oh, gee... they were lying to us?
That's never happened before!
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Thanks a lot, deniers. You have willingly participated in a multi-decade campaign to line the pockets of your corporate and governmental masters, resulting in the destruction of our civilization. BAU forever, eh? Fuck You very much.
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paland
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« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2009, 06:13:05 PM » |
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But are they going to admit it this year? If not, then it's BAU for the plebes.
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PseudoPhil
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« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2009, 06:23:01 PM » |
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My takeaway was that the previously insanely optimistic numbers would be revised down to merely stupidly optimistic....
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Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain !
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Brennus
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« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2009, 06:35:46 PM » |
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I thought I heard that right,on newsnight!
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Pay a ransom and we'll leave otherwise the nightmare you're living will seem like merely a dream!
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JohnLudi
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« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2009, 07:26:59 PM » |
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Nice catch!
I have a feeling that PO is going to be a bigger and faster issue than even a lot of people familiar with the term expect.
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