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« on: November 04, 2009, 09:15:41 AM »

http://www.boingboing.net/2009/11/03/secret-copyright-tre.html


* That ISPs have to proactively police copyright on user-contributed material. This means that it will be impossible to run a service like Flickr or YouTube or Blogger, since hiring enough lawyers to ensure that the mountain of material uploaded every second isn't infringing will exceed any hope of profitability.

* That ISPs have to cut off the Internet access of accused copyright infringers or face liability. This means that your entire family could be denied to the internet -- and hence to civic participation, health information, education, communications, and their means of earning a living -- if one member is accused of copyright infringement, without access to a trial or counsel.

* That the whole world must adopt US-style "notice-and-takedown" rules that require ISPs to remove any material that is accused -- again, without evidence or trial -- of infringing copyright. This has proved a disaster in the US and other countries, where it provides an easy means of censoring material, just by accusing it of infringing copyright.

* Mandatory prohibitions on breaking DRM, even if doing so for a lawful purpose (e.g., to make a work available to disabled people; for archival preservation; because you own the copyrighted work that is locked up with DRM)
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« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2009, 09:37:59 AM »

If this treaty is enacted then it looks like the internet will become nothing but a MSM/shopping outlet.
Did you see this comment after the story? He summed it up pretty well:

 lolbrandon | #12 | 14:47 on Tue, Nov. 3 | Reply Report

Look folks, if this copyright treaty means protecting Mickey Mouse from unauthorized reproductions, then it's a small price to pay to forever risk losing access to civic participation, health information, education, registration and renewal of government documents, global communication, access to government, weather and traffic, emergency service information, freedom of speech and assembly....


This is absolutely horrible.
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« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2009, 10:07:54 AM »

good luck passing this.
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« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2009, 10:56:55 AM »

While we're building utopia, ISP's should be responsible for making sure no one on the internet is mean or tells a lie.
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« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2009, 11:07:14 AM »

good luck passing this.

Passed by whom?  Will there ever be a vote or will our masters put it in place without a public process?

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« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2009, 12:34:13 PM »

Guess it's time to start saving my favorite articles, recipes and doomer info to disk.  Within a few years there may be no good reason to have internet access.  Well that's 60 bucks a month I could spend elsewhere.
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« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2009, 12:52:14 PM »

Guess it's time to start saving my favorite articles, recipes and doomer info to disk.  Within a few years there may be no good reason to have internet access.  Well that's 60 bucks a month I could spend elsewhere.

Or an alternative will grow up in parallel with the internet, maybe a cell-like structure of open nodes and a protocol that figures least node routing.

 
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« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2009, 01:13:22 PM »

Guess it's time to start saving my favorite articles, recipes and doomer info to disk.  Within a few years there may be no good reason to have internet access.  Well that's 60 bucks a month I could spend elsewhere.

Or an alternative will grow up in parallel with the internet, maybe a cell-like structure of open nodes and a protocol that figures least node routing.

You're not finished with it yet?  Grin
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« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2009, 01:34:53 PM »

Guess it's time to start saving my favorite articles, recipes and doomer info to disk.  Within a few years there may be no good reason to have internet access.  Well that's 60 bucks a month I could spend elsewhere.

I've been seriously considering doing some heavy-duty data collection from the internet. The time is NOW and should be ongoing really, because I don't think this communication medium could be taken away quickly, without warning. At least storage media are cheap.
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« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2009, 01:46:40 PM »

I agree--get the stuff you want off the internet now, if possible.  Not just because of this latest insanity, but just in case--something else unforseen could happen--electricity goes out for an extended period of time or forever--tshtf--teotwawki--pick yer doom.
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« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2009, 01:48:14 PM »

Guess it's time to start saving my favorite articles, recipes and doomer info to disk.  Within a few years there may be no good reason to have internet access.  Well that's 60 bucks a month I could spend elsewhere.

Or an alternative will grow up in parallel with the internet, maybe a cell-like structure of open nodes and a protocol that figures least node routing.

You're not finished with it yet?  Grin

I'm in the process of setting up a home network and web server. If someone else in the next town did the same, we could run cable and our networks could talk to each other and to hell with the internet. It would be a constant process keeping such a thing running, but it's very doable.
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« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2009, 01:49:05 PM »

Guess it's time to start saving my favorite articles, recipes and doomer info to disk.  Within a few years there may be no good reason to have internet access.  Well that's 60 bucks a month I could spend elsewhere.

Or an alternative will grow up in parallel with the internet, maybe a cell-like structure of open nodes and a protocol that figures least node routing.

You're not finished with it yet?  Grin

I'm in the process of setting up a home network and web server. If someone else in the next town did the same, we could run cable and our networks could talk to each other and to hell with the internet. It would be a constant process keeping such a thing running, but it's very doable.

Maybe I should pick up a couple of cheap routers.
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« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2009, 01:53:51 PM »

Guess it's time to start saving my favorite articles, recipes and doomer info to disk.  Within a few years there may be no good reason to have internet access.  Well that's 60 bucks a month I could spend elsewhere.

Or an alternative will grow up in parallel with the internet, maybe a cell-like structure of open nodes and a protocol that figures least node routing.

You're not finished with it yet?  Grin

I'm in the process of setting up a home network and web server. If someone else in the next town did the same, we could run cable and our networks could talk to each other and to hell with the internet. It would be a constant process keeping such a thing running, but it's very doable.

Maybe I should pick up a couple of cheap routers.

We just might be witness to history right here  Wink
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« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2009, 01:54:41 PM »

I've been squirrelling away useful data for some time now, encyclopedias, 3rd world tech how to. Pharmacists prescription drug id's and uses. Herbalism, Edible plants and fungi.

Up to a couple of terabytes now duplicated on seperate drives and dvds plus lots of essential hardcopies of the most important stuff.
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« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2009, 02:01:06 PM »

Books

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