Ukraine flu(?) outbreak - viral pneumonia - quarantines

[rocketgirl]

to lighten up the discussion, there is a Seinfeld quote for everything:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzLtF_PxbYw#noexternalembed

That was perfect Beast.  Thanks for the laugh!  Board game on the subway, you gotta laugh.

[beast2000]

to lighten up the discussion, there is a Seinfeld quote for everything:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzLtF_PxbYw#noexternalembed

That was perfect Beast.  Thanks for the laugh!  Board game on the subway, you gotta laugh.

@rocketgirl
NO SOUP FOR YOU !

[pamela]

I don't know how relevent this may be, but I will put it out there and you can make of it what you will.Back in 1918/19 the residents of a remote and poor small town in the states asked their doctor
what they should do if the `flu got to the town.The very elderly doctor told them that at the first signs of feeling sick they were to go to bed and take a bottle of whiskey with them.They were to drink the whiskey, and keep drinking it until the room `begins to spin`.They were then to stay in bed and not get up until they felt better.The local who told this story said that the epidemic did reach the town and although a lot of people caught the `flu, no one that he heard of died of it.
 I am not saying that all the people who survived the illness drank the whiskey and had this to thank for their survival, but I am sure that many would have taken the doctors advice, simply because that was all that was on offer, and whiskey (moonshine) was readily available.
 We now know that alcohol taken in substantial amounts suppresses the body's auto-immune system, we also now know it was the body's own defense system that made this disease so deadly  to the young and the healthy in that pandemic.It may be that the old doctor was onto something, all those years ago.

actually, that's not a bad idea. It was mentioned in the big flu thread how people consuming alcohol did better with the flu than others possible because the alcohol killed off some of the virus before it could take hold.

[Broil]

my inlaws told us yesterday that slovakia (where they live) have begun closing the border between the Ukraine (to the east of Slovakia) and Slovakia to prevent transmission. There is a lot of fear there because in the East of Slovakia where the Ukraine border is there are a lot of Roma (gypsy) people and they are already in a failed state of health and lack proper care. If they do get ill they will most likely be transmitting it and not even know they need to seek care or what it even is.

Despite closing of the border i think that what can get through probably already has and is evolving at this time. Soon they will find out perhaps.

We have our Summer house near the Carpatians and near north central Slovakia and the population in the town is a lot more isolated. Its an old town and people just dont travel much so it might be relatively safe. Its also out of the way for most travellers so we'll see if it gets there. Anything can happen.

Good luck! I'll bet there's a beautiful view of the mountains from there.

[Puchica]

at least the government has things well under hand.  I was at a state run institution today where one ward is quarantined because of the H1N1 outbreak there.  Then there was an 'issue' on a ward in an adjacent building, and staff from the quarantined ward all came running to the other ward to help handle a situation.  So probably by next week, the virus will be all over the facility.  It's hard to break routine and habits, and people don't think well in emergency.  quarantines just can't be relied on to stop the spread of the virus.

[wordnerd]

WHO Targets Hemorrhagic H1N1 Cases in Lviv Ukraine

Recombinomics Commentary 19:54
November 3, 2009
http://www.recombinomics.com/News/11030902/Ukraine_Hemor.html

This quote stood out for me.

"The outbreak in Ukraine may be indicative of how the virus can behave in the northern hemisphere during the winter season, particularly in health care settings typically found in eastern Europe," it added.

THIS is what we can expect this winter? Bleeding lungs? 

[DoomNymph]

I hope not, Wordy.  Yikes.

[john940]

wow, sounds bad there. when i was in slovakia earlier this year my mom in law had a heart attack and i followed the old ambulance to the main hospital in zilina city. the hospital was supposed ot be the "newer" hospital. when we arrived i got out and saw rusty gurneys with broken straps and flat tires on the old fashiponed wheelchairs. i had no idea what i was in for and what i had always taken for granted. this was their "newer" hospital where my wife was born.

the van she was taken to the hospital in was an old Skoda van probably from the 60's.

you never really realize all you take for granted when you see how it is outside of the US. that was probably the biggest lesson of all.

[rocketgirl]

to lighten up the discussion, there is a Seinfeld quote for everything:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzLtF_PxbYw#noexternalembed

That was perfect Beast.  Thanks for the laugh!  Board game on the subway, you gotta laugh.

@rocketgirl
NO SOUP FOR YOU !

ARE YOU SPONGE WORTHY?

[Suspect Zero]

to lighten up the discussion, there is a Seinfeld quote for everything:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzLtF_PxbYw#noexternalembed

That was perfect Beast.  Thanks for the laugh!  Board game on the subway, you gotta laugh.

@rocketgirl
NO SOUP FOR YOU !

ARE YOU SPONGE WORTHY?

Probably not but can you spare a square?

[rocketgirl]

to lighten up the discussion, there is a Seinfeld quote for everything:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzLtF_PxbYw#noexternalembed

That was perfect Beast.  Thanks for the laugh!  Board game on the subway, you gotta laugh.

@rocketgirl
NO SOUP FOR YOU !

ARE YOU SPONGE WORTHY?

Probably not but can you spare a square?

BUBBLE BOY!

[beast2000]

to lighten up the discussion, there is a Seinfeld quote for everything:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzLtF_PxbYw#noexternalembed

That was perfect Beast.  Thanks for the laugh!  Board game on the subway, you gotta laugh.

@rocketgirl
NO SOUP FOR YOU !

ARE YOU SPONGE WORTHY?

Probably not but can you spare a square?

BUBBLE BOY!

PIGMAN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IG81Bvyzi6w (External Embedding Disabled)

"the government has been experimenting with the Pigman since the 50s.."

--> there you go: SWINE FLU

[goodraven]

WHO team arrives to assist with Ukraine flu probe

Laboratory testing at labs in the Ukraine have confirmed the pandemic H1N1 virus in samples taken from patients in two regions, the WHO said, adding that because the pandemic virus has become dominant throughout the world, most of the Ukrainian respiratory illnesses are probably caused by the novel H1N1 strain

from CIDRAP  http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/

[rocketgirl]

to lighten up the discussion, there is a Seinfeld quote for everything:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzLtF_PxbYw#noexternalembed

That was perfect Beast.  Thanks for the laugh!  Board game on the subway, you gotta laugh.

@rocketgirl
NO SOUP FOR YOU !

ARE YOU SPONGE WORTHY?

Probably not but can you spare a square?

BUBBLE BOY!

PIGMAN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IG81Bvyzi6w#noexternalembed

"the government has been experimenting with the Pigman since the 50s.."

--> there you go: SWINE FLU

JUST A FAT LITTLE MENTAL PATIENT!  (OMG I'M DYING)

[Grower]

Is there anything here in these quotes about me? No? I'm not interested.