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« on: October 29, 2009, 11:55:03 AM »

http://agonist.org/cliff_schecter/20091028/the_under_the_radar_assault_by_the_agricultural_industrial_complex

On November 3rd, there will be a Constitutional Amendment on the ballot in Ohio.

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It would create a 13-member board, 10 appointed by the Governor of Ohio (and, shockingly, they could all be from the Agricultural Industrial Complex), who would have ABSOLUTE POWER over regulating all conditions on farms in Ohio.
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« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2009, 02:19:05 PM »

Jesus.  There are a lot of Ohioans on this forum.  Sounds like they need to go all Hardin, Montana on the assholes in Ohio. 
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« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2009, 12:11:52 PM »

Jesus.  There are a lot of Ohioans on this forum.  Sounds like they need to go all Hardin, Montana on the assholes in Ohio. 

I am voting against this after lots of concideration. There is a LOT of money behind this movement and once I learned that it was a COSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT that was all I needed to know.

also voting against Issue 3 and the Casino's even though the plan is to open one up right near my house. That would mean a lot of decent jobs. But it needs a contitutional change and I'm not willing to do that.

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« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2009, 01:42:52 PM »

A lot of farm groups are for it - many see it as an attempt by the farmers to head off any attempt by PETA types to try to regulate how farmers treat their livestock. Then there is the big agribusiness vs the little guy conflict that some people use to look at it.
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« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2009, 04:00:31 PM »

Jesus.  There are a lot of Ohioans on this forum.  Sounds like they need to go all Hardin, Montana on the assholes in Ohio. 

I am voting against this after lots of concideration. There is a LOT of money behind this movement and once I learned that it was a COSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT that was all I needed to know.

also voting against Issue 3 and the Casino's even though the plan is to open one up right near my house. That would mean a lot of decent jobs. But it needs a contitutional change and I'm not willing to do that.

Robert

I agree.

And I haven't heard any ads against Issue 2.  I have a feeling they are going to sneak it thru because people are just uniformed and no one has pointed out the negatives.

Someone called in to local NPR the other day and pointed out the truth.  The Ohio Congress couldn't pass this as legislation because no one wanted their name attached to it when people wise up to what it really is.
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« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2009, 04:05:23 PM »

When people get so disinterested in government that a constitutional amendment can be "snuck through"  we are really screwed.
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« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2009, 09:24:41 PM »

We have 11 amendments in Texas and the turnout for the early voting was pathetically low.

No one at my job bothered when I mentioned it. The polling place was totally empty when I went there as well.
Sad that they only come out of the woodwork every 4 years to vote for someone they don't really know and then they whine and rant for 4 years under that administration.
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« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2009, 09:15:49 AM »

And the trouble with constitutional amendments is that those who do bother to turn out tend to vote "yes." I've never understood that. You'd think that if you didn't understand it, you'd vote "no."   Huh
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« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2009, 09:09:38 PM »

speaking as an ohioan and soon to be small alternative farmer, most of the talking points i've heard on issue 2 have been confusing at best.  it took me a fair deal of research to figure out where i even stood on it.

it's not being made very clear anywhere that there's big-ag money involved... that would have made my choice much easier.
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« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2009, 09:35:35 AM »


it's not being made very clear anywhere that there's big-ag money involved... that would have made my choice much easier.

No, well they don't advertise their involvement. It took a lot of digging to find out that Monsanto and ADM wrote various federal "food safety" bills.
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« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2009, 10:06:34 AM »

did it pass?
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« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2009, 10:51:35 AM »

Yes, I regret to say it did. Const. amendments nearly always do.

http://extras.theintelligencer.net/electionresults/issueresults.asp?state=oh&county=all
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