Do you expect to survivel PO?

[ExRanger]

I expect to go on living until the day I choose not to. Then it will be a good day to die.

[Six Gun Jim]

I figure I never did really care all that much anyway or I would have lived my life safe and sound and played along with the system. If I make it I do and if I don't I don't, luck had better serve anybody who tries to decide for me. Even in the worst days of my life I could always find a way to laugh and put one foot in front of the other, not much is going to change that now. -James 

[girlofcelje]

If its a fast crash maybe a few days but not before an MZB gets scotch bonnet pepper sauce in the
face

[fredd58]

I'm guessing 'no,' but who the heck really knows? My whole point in doing all of this is for my kids and grandkids. I know me well enough to know that, while I very much usually try to get along and work with others, I can also be a cantankerous ass, usually at the wrong moment! My guess is there's a whole bunch of people on this board who lack basic 'get-along' skills! 

[tobyjones]

My guess is there's a whole bunch of people on this board who lack basic 'get-along' skills! 

Fuck You!  I get along with everyone who does what I tell them just fine!

And while I'm at it get your damn flu shot Fredd.

[cygnus]

I don't know.  I expect I'll probably make it another 20 years, but if things get really bad between now and then, I'll probably die "early" from something or another.  Probably overwork and fatigue combined with the usual old age health issues.  I doubt when I reach that point in life that many younger people will consider an older person like me worth keeping around, even though I have a huge repertoire of survival and self-sufficiency skills.  We, as a culture, left that attitude behind a loooong time ago.  Old people are disposable now, and I suspect they will still be considered disposable nuisances by the young and fit for quite a while yet. 

As someone else said, once we middle age or older folks are no longer able to defend ourselves, people will simply kill us and take our stuff.  That kind of action will generate the best short-term gains, and most people really don't give a crap about the long term.  Witness our economy and our personal finances here as an example - not to mention the tons of folks who simply won't bother to even minimally prep for a sea change like the one that is coming our way. 

My focus at the moment is to work on making my life *now* a bit happier and healthier.  I want to enjoy it while I can.  Yes, I'm prepping, and we're prepped pretty darned well for small city folks who don't have an actual doomstead in the boonies (although we're still going to try to get some land as soon as we can) but physical prepping isn't the whole of the equation here.  It'll take a lot more than just buckets of beans to get through what we're likely to be faced with shortly. 

One thing I do have going for me is I'm mentally pretty tough.  I can take a lot of crap and setbacks in life and just keep on plugging away at it anyway, making the best of what I can.  I can also stare harsh reality in the face even if it's not what I would like it to be, and learn to deal with it.  That's a survival skill I expect will be sorely needed in the years to come. 

But even so, at some point for me it will be "a good day to die" as ex-Ranger said.  And on that day I hope to go with dignity. 

[boiler_92]

My guess is there's a whole bunch of people on this board who lack basic 'get-along' skills! 

Fuck You!  I get along with everyone who does what I tell them just fine!

And while I'm at it get your damn flu shot Fredd.

Yeah, fredd, FUCK YOU!!!  I love people!  I'm a people person!!!!!!!!!

It's funny that this should come up now, because I've taken to saying that people person bit recently because I'm so NOT. 

As for whether or not I'll survive, I have no clue.  I'm guessing not, especially if something happens to my kids. 

[MEA]

Anyone want to open a betting book on who lasts how long?

MEA, who does not, does NOT, I repeate, have a black sense of humour

[tobyjones]

I last 6 months after triggering event or till Fredd tracks me down.

[MEA]

At which point he sneezes on you, and it's all over?

[Skillet-Licker1]

I give myself (my family) a bit better than 50% chance of survival.

I have boosted this likelyhood abit, like most of You have by looking at, and therein acting upon, what I think are the anticipated events that a crash (specifically short term economic, long term: PO) would present.  Preps take care of the short term transition (and do somewhat prepare for an unlikely fast crash scenario). Although preps are clearly a priority one necessity, I remind myself that it is only a bridge to a land of uncertain and somewhat new and difficult culture.  Having read "One Second After" and after a short term freak out, I calmed down and surmised that if anything that crashes the system, there are time windows to act quickly and to martial logic and defense.

By primitive culture I certainly do not believe or mean our culture will return to the stone ages; I mean primitive to the conveniences that oil has increasingly provided over the last century (i.e., electricity, plastics, transportation, etc.). 

The banking shenanigans that will ultimately result in a nasty crash; is a repeat of economic crashes (in different forms, but rhyming) that humans have experienced in the past.  It will not be pleasant, but history illuminates survival in these times. 

We, westernized humans, have zero historical experience with PO, which is at the end of the day, is the term and concept that really gives me pause.  Whether or not this plays out slow, med, or long term - my bet is on the short - medium term as peak means 50% is gone - and there are peoples - countries - PTB - that will husband these resources and act accordingly to protect their comforts.  PO is my worry, and irregardless of when it is stated as official - others are making plans now and these plans do not include us nor, are they likely to benefit us.

Lazy, greedy, panicky people are what really takes a dent in the likely survivability of a nasty PO, economic, storm.  Many will not know how to cope and will bloody freak out.  History teaches us this as well.

[MEA]

Speaking generally, and not of any poster on this site, PO aware people seem to fall into two catatories (other than those who put people into two catatories and those who don't).

1) all the bloody fools running around and panicing will end up harming not only their chances of survival but mine too.

2) the more people who panic and die quickly, the better my changes of long term survival.

I can see "merit" in both points of view, but tend to put myself in the first catagory.

MEA

[Skillet-Licker1]

Speaking generally, and not of any poster on this site, PO aware people seem to fall into two catatories (other than those who put people into two catatories and those who don't).

1) all the bloody fools running around and panicing will end up harming not only their chances of survival but mine too.

2) the more people who panic and die quickly, the better my changes of long term survival.

I can see "merit" in both points of view, but tend to put myself in the first catagory.

MEA

Yes.

[fredd58]

ROFLMAO!!!

Ah, I feel the love....

And fuck you too toby...

[Max und Moritz]

I´ve done my best to cover as many offing bumpers as possible - hunger, disease, thirst, break-ins - but, withal hoping the crash will be slower and softer than in the US of A (Austria/Hungary folk being used to war, famine, displacement etc), there are some things I don´t WANT to survive. Chernóbyl was bad enough already - if the mushrooms flare up, the UN building here has a lovely panoramic top floor that has been used for such exits before  Suicide being a socially OK way to go, unlike elsewhere.