Do you expect to survivel PO?

[ReddDogg]

Every one of us has survived  Peak Oil, because the Peak has now passed, and we are all still alive.  Will we survive to see the ride down the bell curve?  Now that is a tricky one.  I am not yet 30, so I have a decent chance of surviving based on age long enough to see the majority of the decent down the bell curve.  Logically, somewhere between 30-50 years from now, which puts me at 60-80, the bell curve should flatten out again as we are past the oil age.  So based on that alone, I would say I have a 75% of living until 60 years old, and thus to the bottom of the big oil drop off.  But considering all the other problems in the world, my odds are far lower, probably 25-40%.  But my kids I hope will have a much better chance to make it, maybe 50-60%, since their life is just beginning.  Who knows.  Hard to predict as there are just so many variables.

Any which way you slice it, I am going to enjoy every day as much as I can between now and my death.  If today is my last day, so be it.

[AnIowan]

Do I expect to survive?  Not really.  20 years puts me in upper middle age (58), and while I don't think the United States will have suddenly gone medieval, I do think that our health care system will have decayed to the point where things that are treatable now, will be much more fatal then.

However, I have a beautiful wife, and two incredible daughters to whom I will fight tooth and nail to protect.  For that right there, I will always fight for each breath, making sure they are as safe as I can help them be.

In the end though, like many have said, when that day comes, it will be a good day to die.

[houseoftang]

I already have survived it, for something like 4 years.

It's the consequences of it that I might not survive. 

[peter31]

I live about 5 miles away from a large Canadian Forces base and I sometimes wonder how that will affect my survival prospects:
Will the military protect me from the unwashed hordes of MZBs?
Will the military BECOME the unwashed hordes of MZBs?
When TSHTF, will the military all just go home to their families, assuming their families are somewhere other than on the base, and thereby be neutral in terms of my survival?

[theozarker]

Well, at 69, I'm both terrified and comforted by the fact that most of the women in my family, all the way back to the Civil War, have lived into their late eighties to mid nineties.   So I'm trying to plan as if I will, too.  But since it probably won't go down the way any of us think it might, I'm also trying to stay flexible in my thinking.  I don't really have any particular fear of death, just would like to die with some dignity, as someone else mentioned above.  I'm more curious about the future than I am afraid, I think.  Would like to stick around to see how it all turns out and whether we can prove worthy, as a species, of surviving.

Linda

[madison]

Yes.

I will do whatever I need to do in order to see my child to adulthood.

If he goes before me, all bets are off. 

[the Black Hunter]

canadians  , the other white meat

Americans: lard for the pie-crusts of the future!

[MEA]

I wonder if people's predictions have to do with their level of preps or their view of the future, or a mix.

[the Black Hunter]

Unless you already live in a cross between a remote armed fortress and a self-sufficient Amish village surrounded by some serious pre-industrial-skilled and equipped compatriots religiously devoted to your common cause and well versed in defense and who have figured out how to survive as such under whatever the local conditions may be where you are, you are not prepped.   This is the situation i'd prefer to be in, right now.

As i am not, nor likely to be, and even though i am a guy who knows how to fish, trap, hunt, work horses, farm, gather food, make some clothing, etc... I give myself (at 45) maybe a 25% chance to make it to 60.  Maybe.  The stress will finish me, i expect - physical and mental. 

I don't really think the optimists on here have more than the slightest clue what we are up against.  The planet is more than half dead and our culture's life support is about to come unhinged and release 7 billion of us to the whims of nature. 

[kermujin]

Nope.

The only question in my mind is whether or not I die peacefully and with some dignity or where I have to make sure of my body guard in hell. If so, I'll make it a big one.


Sabre
38 days n a wake up

OK, if I don't find out what the wakeup is, and soon, I'll about go crazy. 

/we now return to our regularly scheduled thread/

[jonny2mad]

pah

I'm tough, I come from a family that live very old Im 44 now but see no reason why I shouldn't live to 100, Im not sure what Im going to do next with my life and its more likely doing something dangerous that will kill me not peak oil

if you were to ask people who know me whether I was the sort of person to survive a disaster most would say I was , at the moment I'm clearing my house with the intention of letting it so Id be free to travel anywhere on earth .

anyway the whole thing doesn't worry me that much Ive been hungry and poor Ive had people try to kill me , Ive had lots of injury's how many people are walking around after being paralysed from the neck down for 23 hours, things arent so bad .

if we get nuked I will die but dieing is part of life sometimes its fast sometimes slow

[SabreKai]

Nope.

The only question in my mind is whether or not I die peacefully and with some dignity or where I have to make sure of my body guard in hell. If so, I'll make it a big one.


Sabre
38 days n a wake up

OK, if I don't find out what the wakeup is, and soon, I'll about go crazy. 

/we now return to our regularly scheduled thread/

heh, heh, IM me n I'll tell ya.


N Fredd, Piss off will ya? I've got lots of get-along skills. I just limit the people I expend them on. I give everyone the benefit of the doubt, but once they cross over that line into idiot I leave em alone.

Sabre
36 days n a wake up.

[Broil]

If we can survive the economic crisis, there probably won't be any fast crash.  We won't be able to buy as much cool stuff, we'll have to pay more for gas and food, so we'll walk and bike and garden more.  It'll be like some of the poorer European countries, or like the US one hundred years ago, except for having better communications systems.

Personally, my major concern would be the continued availability of meds.

Again, all that is IF we're not torn apart by the economic crisis.

[the Black Hunter]

If we can survive the economic crisis, there probably won't be any fast crash.  We won't be able to buy as much cool stuff, we'll have to pay more for gas and food, so we'll walk and bike and garden more.  It'll be like some of the poorer European countries, or like the US one hundred years ago, except for having better communications systems.

Personally, my major concern would be the continued availability of meds.

Again, all that is IF we're not torn apart by the economic crisis.

It won't be at all like America of a hundred years ago unless a lot of us die, giving other things (like the planet) a chance to live again, and then it will take some time to return to a state that resembles an earlier era.  Which is the point of this thread - if many must die (and they must if the survivors are to have any quality of life), how will you avoid being one of them? 

I'm not sure i'd want to be surrounded by the sorts of people who think they're so tough and that their survival is a given.  Classic underestimation of "the enemy," if you ask me.  Never underestimate your enemy if you want to live.  Assume you could and may well perish and act accordingly, and with humility.

Mind-you, a tough attitude is worth something.  Unless it is entirely delusional.  If you think you're tough, this is the time to ask yourself, "compared to what?  In what context?"  In todays' context?  Whoopee!  A kid who goes to the park and walks the dog in the rain for twenty minutes is tough in todays' context.

[boiler_92]

If we can survive the economic crisis, there probably won't be any fast crash.  We won't be able to buy as much cool stuff, we'll have to pay more for gas and food, so we'll walk and bike and garden more.  It'll be like some of the poorer European countries, or like the US one hundred years ago, except for having better communications systems.

Personally, my major concern would be the continued availability of meds.

Broil, I didn't think you believed in "meds."