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« on: October 20, 2009, 04:36:28 PM » |
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I looked through various likely categories, and found no mention of this week's Kunstler essay.
I don't disagree with his general assessment of the rage and despair people are feeling, but I really wonder if he has made a mistake by publishing such musings. He writes about shooting bankers on Wall Street, placing explosives here and there. It's one thing to bring these topics up (and speak of them with such specificity) among friends in conversation, quite another to make them public to thousands of readers.
Some would see it as going beyond prognostication. I can imagine - if anything like this happens - he may have some goons knocking on his front door.
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« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2009, 04:48:13 PM » |
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« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2009, 04:57:06 PM » |
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JHK better check out what kind of hormones might be in his drinking water!
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« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2009, 05:21:33 PM » |
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I think he's probably gonna get a visit from somebody over that one, and people are gonna be WAY unhappy with the dude if somebody actually does it! I wasn't any happier over reading that bs as I was listening to Palin or Beck or some other Repug tool inciting the right. It's wrong, no matter who is doing the inciting or what the target may be (though I'm having difficulty imagining a more worthy target....).
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« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2009, 07:39:41 PM » |
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Maybe this is how he REALLY feels. Maybe it is time............
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« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2009, 07:43:05 PM » |
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The discussion has been going on since yesterday in Breaking News: http://www.doomers.us/forum2/index.php/topic,55059.0.htmlPersonally, I think JHK is getting a bit frustrated that last year's oil price spike hasn't caused things to go all Mad Maxian as quickly as he thought they would. |
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« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2009, 07:57:19 PM » |
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Maybe he's writing a prequel to "The World Made by Hand"?
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« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2009, 08:19:06 PM » |
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Kunstler asked a reasonable question. Why hasn't Goldman Sachs got a hell of a bitch slap? It is not like a number of journalists haven't laid it all out. We done been robbed good.
Let's face it, you treat folks badly, you always run the risk of some nut job taking offense (besides the normal folk).
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« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2009, 08:49:00 PM » |
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I think he is asking valid questions.
Also think that its only a matter of time before bankers/leeches become targets of the peoples anger.
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« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2009, 11:03:53 PM » |
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« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2009, 12:15:04 AM » |
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I agree with Kunstler on most things and agree that it's just a matter of time before the violence breaks out in certain parts of the US. But yes, he does seem to be cheerleading it a bit too much.
He's probably frustrated that it's taking so long to materialize.
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« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2009, 04:49:32 AM » |
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Morally I agree with it completely, but as a matter of politics I hope there are no such ad hoc actions.
The point is to eradicate the structure as a whole, not to go off half-cocked with undisciplined outrages that just play into the hands of corporatist totalitarianism.
Of course, historically it's more often been police agents than bona fide radicals who perpetrated acts of "propaganda by deed", as the Russians called it. Most political assassinations in czarist Russia had police involvement.
So if something like Kunstler described happens, that should be our first assumption.
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« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2009, 09:58:39 AM » |
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If he's so bent out of shape about the way things are going, why isn't he out there leading the charge?
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« Reply #13 on: October 21, 2009, 10:14:54 AM » |
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If he's so bent out of shape about the way things are going, why isn't he out there leading the charge?
Now that, imho, is an excellent question. I will withhold further commentary, which was to include "tree of liberty," "blood of patriots," and the like. |
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« Reply #14 on: October 21, 2009, 11:59:22 AM » |
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I looked through various likely categories, and found no mention of this week's Kunstler essay.
I don't disagree with his general assessment of the rage and despair people are feeling, but I really wonder if he has made a mistake by publishing such musings. He writes about shooting bankers on Wall Street, placing explosives here and there. It's one thing to bring these topics up (and speak of them with such specificity) among friends in conversation, quite another to make them public to thousands of readers.
Some would see it as going beyond prognostication. I can imagine - if anything like this happens - he may have some goons knocking on his front door.
Yes, he does go beyond prognostication - he says "President Obama had better strike first" and then he suggests that Obama might be able to prevent mob action by clawing-back bonuses, directing the Justice Department to start arresting people for fraud, and firing people who were complicit with the crisis. I don't see that article as promoting violence, although his tie-in to the 'zombieland' theme might constitute torture of the readers. |
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