Mike Ruppert: Economic Warning - October 9 '09

[Max und Moritz]

@ cabacaba and Pam - why is frozen meat dicey? 

I´ve stocked up on everything except heat-and-eat complete canned meals - meat-filled ravioli & peppers, goulash, chicken casserole etc. for  my carnivore family. Wonder if, at 2 Euro the two-portion can, it´s good value.

For vegetarians, I hear PB is an excellent source of high calories and fat.

[pamela]

I guess the poster meant that the power could go off and you could lose your frozen foods.
I have frozen meat in the freezer myself, and buy canned hams and things like that when I can.

[ajhammered365]

Thank God its not a fast crash, bc I have time to get out of the way.

Same here. I know some people want it to just crash fast and let's get on with it, or something like that. I think maybe we want the fast crash for vindication that we're indeed not off our rockers, like many of the general public think. But the best has been the slow crash, so we "have time to get out of the way" (I like that, Seahorse) -- it's happening all around us, all the time, we just don't notice it as dramatically as how we envision a sudden economic event that shocks the system. Is that what we really want? I don't. But just because I don't want it, doesn't mean it can't happen. It can, and we're closer now to "It will." At least I'm not in denial. 

 I agree with both of you. I believe that bad things are in store for the US and the rest of the globe because I've done research, thought about it, second guessed myself and others and still come to the same conclusion: we're fucked. In another post someone had made the remark that I had some serious doom for a newbie. Just because I'm new to this board doesn't mean that this is my first rodeo! 
 Buy Spam, .22lr ammo and Vodka. These never spoil and if you can't use them, someone will give you something in return that you can. People who want it all to fall apart tomorrow so they can tell everyone they were "told you so" haven't really thought about it. No more gas, no more electricity etc. It isn't going to be fun like Fallout 3.

[cz]

I guess the poster meant that the power could go off and you could lose your frozen foods.
I have frozen meat in the freezer myself, and buy canned hams and things like that when I can.

Totally understand that one.  I bought a bunch of "family pack" meat yesterday - but its what I've always done, split it up and freeze it, cheaper in bulk and I'll use it eventually.  Of course, here in New England it's starting to get cold, so even if the power fails I might just be able to stick it out in the garage in the cooler for a few months anyways and still keep it frozen (not quite that cold yet, but...).  Definitely not something I'd consider preps though for a *true* TSHTF scenario.

[Clueless]

Ruppert?? AKA Colonel Kurtz?

Hey Seahorse - You told me to buy a bunch of Peanut Butter about 1.5 yrs ago when they issued the first stimulus checks...Well, I took your advice and now I have 12 lbs of Jif that is going to expire in a month or two, do you have any suggestions on what I can do with it

Much obliged.

[LuaHasFreedom]

Clueless, that peanut butter will be good for years yet. Don't worry about the "expiration date."

[Seahorse]

Ruppert?? AKA Colonel Kurtz?

Hey Seahorse - You told me to buy a bunch of Peanut Butter about 1.5 yrs ago when they issued the first stimulus checks...Well, I took your advice and now I have 12 lbs of Jif that is going to expire in a month or two, do you have any suggestions on what I can do with it

Much obliged.

If I recall my peanut butter expiration dates, they are good for at least two years.  I keep about a year supply on hand but continually eat it, meaning rotate it.  So, if you eat peanut butter (I have three kids), you should be eating it and replacing what you eat.  That way, you avoid any expiration problems. 

[LuaHasFreedom]

I decided a few years ago that I couldn't buy enough gold to make a difference, so I decided to buy goats instead. I figure cheese will have enough value to people so that I can trade my cheese for their gold.

[Tranzdog]

Ruppert?? AKA Colonel Kurtz?

Hey Seahorse - You told me to buy a bunch of Peanut Butter about 1.5 yrs ago when they issued the first stimulus checks...Well, I took your advice and now I have 12 lbs of Jif that is going to expire in a month or two, do you have any suggestions on what I can do with it

Much obliged.

Rotation. Never store something you do not eat.

[Clueless]

Ruppert?? AKA Colonel Kurtz?

Hey Seahorse - You told me to buy a bunch of Peanut Butter about 1.5 yrs ago when they issued the first stimulus checks...Well, I took your advice and now I have 12 lbs of Jif that is going to expire in a month or two, do you have any suggestions on what I can do with it

Much obliged.

If I recall my peanut butter expiration dates, they are good for at least two years.  I keep about a year supply on hand but continually eat it, meaning rotate it.  So, if you eat peanut butter (I have three kids), you should be eating it and replacing what you eat.  That way, you avoid any expiration problems. 

I have 3 kids as well and thought about that, but we normally eat Adams which has a shorter expiration date. I bought the Jif because it had a longer shelf life. Does anybody know if I can freeze it ?

[ninakat]

I decided a few years ago that I couldn't buy enough gold to make a difference, so I decided to buy goats instead. I figure cheese will have enough value to people so that I can trade my cheese for their gold.

Bravo!

[lynnie]

The treated peanut butters like Jif, Skippy and Peter Pan can go probably at least a couple years after the expiration date, room temp. Yes, it freezes. For preps, it is one time you don't want the all natural items, as the oil goes rancid much faster. Every good prepper has a stack of Crisco, knowing that the lovely trans fat hydrogenated oils will keep for many years and supply grease for cooking and calories.

[pamplemousse]

Clueless, use your Jif for making peanut butter cookies and granola bars.
Lather, rinse, repeat.

[Domscott66]

You should be cycling through your stores.

There is powdered peanut butter too that lasts a lot longer...havent tried it...not sure if it is worth a dodah...but hey, it's an option.

[LuaHasFreedom]

The treated peanut butters like Jif, Skippy and Peter Pan can go probably at least a couple years after the expiration date, room temp. Yes, it freezes. For preps, it is one time you don't want the all natural items, as the oil goes rancid much faster. Every good prepper has a stack of Crisco, knowing that the lovely trans fat hydrogenated oils will keep for many years and supply grease for cooking and calories.

Actually, coconut oil will keep indefinitely and be much MUCH better for you. I have a very small canister of crisco that I use to grease the shaft on my Champion juicer, but NEVER for food.