National Guard Combat Battalion Deploying to Protect G20 (Defacto Police State)

[max_power]

Womens rights didn't improve because women chose to be passive.

They improved because of banksters like rockefellar for  sinister reasons: Taxing another 50 percent of the population and institutionalizing the raising and teaching of children

[ballad]

They improved because of banksters like rockefellar for  sinister reasons:

Yes. because EVERYTHING is a conspiracy.

[byelka]

Bah who needs romanticism

http://www.mp3lyrics.org/b/black-flag/louie/

Who needs love, when
you've got a gun?
Who needs love, to
have any fun?

I said now, Louie, Louie!

You want romantic? I'll give you romantic...

I was 15 years old and went to the local punk-rock club at the beach to see Henry Rollins (from Black Flag, the guy who sang the song above) read his, um, poetry. While I was there I found my boyfriend smooching with someone else in a doorway! Man...I sat down on the floor at the front of the small room (there were only 20 people there; this was 1985) to listen to the show and I cried quietly through the first half. When Henry said it was time to take a break, I was flabbergasted when, after scribbling something on a scrap of paper, he stepped off the low stage and squatted down next to me.

"Take this," he said, handing me the paper, "And if he ever does it again, call me and I'll come cut his penis off." He patted me on the shoulder and walked off. I looked at the paper and it said "Henry, xxx-xxx-xxxx."

Black Flag was an awesome band, and though Henry Rollins himself is a big old cheeseball, I never will forget how much that exchange -- a punk-rock icon going out of his way to both comfort a stranger and make her laugh (not to mention he knew exactly why I was crying) -- meant to me.

THANK YOU, HENRY ROLLINS.

And I still have his phone number, in case any of you get out of line.

[ballad]

byelka,

thanks for sharing, that's a cool story.

[TheDignityofStruggle]

Anarchists should plan HUGE protests, and then not show up, or show up somewhere else. G-20 in Pittsburgh? Go to St. Louis.  Throw off the fucking man.  It would be great to see 4000 cops lining empty streets, eating up tax dollars.

I have to agree with MTLouie on this one. Win by walking away.  Protests won't work until people start hanging bankers by their entrails, and then really, what will we have won but the soul of the devil himself?

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[greenfire]

Ah, Black Flag.... I saw them in Fayetteville, Arkansas.  The only bigger wall of angst and sound I've ever heard was the Butthole Surfers.  Of course, my hearing has been permanently affected, but it's a small price to pay.

Mt. Louie's post is RTFO, as are the posts that follow suggesting to do nothing, disengaging from the system to force its demise.  Do BOTH.

I suspect, to some extent, the attitudes reflect folks time in life.  If you have a young family or are getting on in years, the protest scene seems like too much personal risk.  For those of us who are unencumbered, and the young, I think a little well placed rage is vital to get this shift going.  I have been initially disappointed with the sheeple and their lack of outrage over the bankster bailouts, and it took awhile for me to understand the "check out" model that seems more in vogue this time around.  Born in the mid-sixties, I always regretted missing out on the rage in the streets over the Vietnam War.  I believe it was effective and DID bring about change.  We have let TPTB consolidate much power in the interim.  After the Battle in Seattle (I watch raw footage from that every couple of weeks), TPTB used 9/11 to really put the police state into effect.  They've known this time was coming.  People will get hurt, but I think it is important for Americans to see bloody grandmothers, as well as bloody anarchists.  The disheartened left and the teabaggers are the poles mentioned in the original post, and the point is not to go to Pittsburg (as romantic as that is to some of us).  The point is that the teabaggers have shown more spunk and verve than the left.  I'm not sure if the Republithug operatives really know what they're unleashing with the Beck Bots.  I was initially intrigued by Beck with his doom-saying, but when I consider the resultant Palin Presidency - or worse - I was repulsed.  Can't smart progressives mount something similar that will capture all the latent anger and desire for action that exists in America today?  I sure hope so.  And, since I'm single w/o dependents, once the doomstead is secured and escape routes confirmed, I'll be in the streets, too.   Rage against the machine!  The Wall Street shits are not just greedy turds, they are mass murderers, as Mt.Louie so adroitly points out.  No justice, no peace.

[LostButMakingGoodTime]

Anarchists should plan HUGE protests, and then not show up, or show up somewhere else. G-20 in Pittsburgh? Go to St. Louis.  Throw off the fucking man.  It would be great to see 4000 cops lining empty streets, eating up tax dollars.

I have to agree with TtLouie on this one. Win by walking away.  Protests won't work until people start hanging bankers by their entrails, and then really, what will we have one but the soul of the devil himself?

Lots of overtime money being made this week... Whole lot of nothing going on here at G20 central.

[kathleen]

Byelka, I would keep that number because I truly believe that Henry Rollins would cut off someone's penis should the need arise. I thought the guitar pick that Billy Zoom from X gave me was cool (about the same time in the 80's), but that is far, far more impressive. Ah, memories.

[TheDignityofStruggle]

Anarchists should plan HUGE protests, and then not show up, or show up somewhere else. G-20 in Pittsburgh? Go to St. Louis.  Throw off the fucking man.  It would be great to see 4000 cops lining empty streets, eating up tax dollars.

I have to agree with TtLouie on this one. Win by walking away.  Protests won't work until people start hanging bankers by their entrails, and then really, what will we have one but the soul of the devil himself?

Lots of overtime money being made this week... Whole lot of nothing going on here at G20 central.

Meanwhile Denver burns as protests flared up out of no where, and then dissipated just as quickly.

[Sabotage]

Anarchists should plan HUGE protests, and then not show up, or show up somewhere else. G-20 in Pittsburgh? Go to St. Louis.  Throw off the fucking man.  It would be great to see 4000 cops lining empty streets, eating up tax dollars.

I have to agree with MTLouie on this one. Win by walking away.  Protests won't work until people start hanging bankers by their entrails, and then really, what will we have won but the soul of the devil himself?

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yeah a lot of folks had suggested for this year to just do local struggle and make it seem like there were gonna be protests at g20.

smashy smashy at home or whatever actions folks wanted to do, etc ya know? but instead the anarcho-liberals won out.


ps: this still might happen in solidarity.

[TheDignityofStruggle]

Anarchists should plan HUGE protests, and then not show up, or show up somewhere else. G-20 in Pittsburgh? Go to St. Louis.  Throw off the fucking man.  It would be great to see 4000 cops lining empty streets, eating up tax dollars.

I have to agree with MTLouie on this one. Win by walking away.  Protests won't work until people start hanging bankers by their entrails, and then really, what will we have won but the soul of the devil himself?

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yeah a lot of folks had suggested for this year to just do local struggle and make it seem like there were gonna be protests at g20.

smashy smashy at home or whatever actions folks wanted to do, etc ya know? but instead the anarcho-liberals won out.


ps: this still might happen in solidarity.

Sabotage, are you familiar with Agorism?

[byelka]

Yay, Erratic Realtor! I love X and just saw them at the 40-Watt. Go here and see; I'm the girl at the end of the video hopping around like a dork (because I'm a dork).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WjmzPdqXrI (External Embedding Disabled)

Also, what happened in Denver?

[mtlouie]

Anarchists should plan HUGE protests, and then not show up, or show up somewhere else. G-20 in Pittsburgh? Go to St. Louis.  Throw off the fucking man.  It would be great to see 4000 cops lining empty streets, eating up tax dollars.

I have to agree with MTLouie on this one. Win by walking away.  Protests won't work until people start hanging bankers by their entrails, and then really, what will we have won but the soul of the devil himself?

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Now there's some good thinking.  Very anarchist-like...... 

byelka- That's an awesome story!!   

[mtlouie]

The Wall Street shits are not just greedy turds, they are mass murderers, as Mt.Louie so adroitly points out.  No justice, no peace.

I'm not sure I've ever said those exact words, but I'll roll with it.  They are mass murderers by the way they support and fund the military-industrial complex, for sure.

"No justice, no peace."

See, I disagree with this.  There is always peace unless a country's leaders start banging the war drum.  People are pretty peaceful, overall.  And by "peaceful," I'm talking about not collectively forming war parties constantly all over the world.  That takes a psychopathic leader and/or government to do that.  Most people are perfectly willing to live a fairly peaceful life unless some dumbass sees a means of making money out of it.

I mean, look at the third world- hell, look at us- we aren't banding together to go to war with Mexico, or Canada, or the third worlders aren't banding together to over-throw their governments.  Most people just want to go home, love their kids, hang out with their friends, etc.

It takes someone at the top (every single time) to start a war.  That's where the "no peace" comes from.

And the other thing is, almost every time, the proles buy into their own demise.  This mess we're in now?  If anyone voted for a president in the past fifty years, they bought into exactly what is going on right now.  How many of us haven't voted?  Not very many.

How many of us haven't shopped at a big box store?  Not very many.  It takes education and propaganda to overcome what we've been subjected to the past forty years, and who has the money to make sure everyone gets the propaganda?  Not us.

 

[Sabotage]

Anarchists should plan HUGE protests, and then not show up, or show up somewhere else. G-20 in Pittsburgh? Go to St. Louis.  Throw off the fucking man.  It would be great to see 4000 cops lining empty streets, eating up tax dollars.

I have to agree with MTLouie on this one. Win by walking away.  Protests won't work until people start hanging bankers by their entrails, and then really, what will we have won but the soul of the devil himself?

*modded for spelling

yeah a lot of folks had suggested for this year to just do local struggle and make it seem like there were gonna be protests at g20.

smashy smashy at home or whatever actions folks wanted to do, etc ya know? but instead the anarcho-liberals won out.


ps: this still might happen in solidarity.

Sabotage, are you familiar with Agorism?

yes. i am more of an anarchist without adjectives. i tend to the left economically but hate the left politically. yet i think libertarians and anarchist have more in common with each other than anarchists and other leftists and democrats/republicans etc

my big thing is anti-domination. mutualism wouldn't be that bad.

i'm more of an anti-civ anarchist-communist though.

what i am worried about with the free market is that there will still be bosses. if it was really just everyone having their own small trade or business that'd be fine. but the only way it could work is if they didn't have employees. i don't want contracts. i want voluntary cooperation.