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« on: December 30, 2009, 04:15:49 PM »

USD collapse 2012 and the
end of the world as we know it

by Christopher Laird, PrudentSquirrel.com | December 29, 2009

Devolution of the USD 2012?

As the first public article for me just before 2010, it seems appropriate for me to comment on one of the biggest stories we will be all facing – that is an end game of events leading to the end of the USD. The implications for the world are no less than Armageddon – like. I mean it.

Before we get into some details, I have been working on forecasts for 2010, and my study of the USD situation and how much time it has left.

I first came to the conclusion that it was roughly (and I am getting close here on timing, I’m sure of this) two years from 2010. Actually, the calculation is two more years of relative USD functionality before the world realizes in about a shocking week’s time that the USD is just about to really go belly up. It’s not 5 years out anymore in my calculations, we have roughly two more years left.

Wait, that coincides with 2012!

It then occurred to me, as an afterthought, wait a minute – that takes us right to 2012!…That has some real significance for many reasons. It was an accident my analysis led to that date, I did not ask ‘Will the USD collapse in 2012?’ and then do the analysis, it was the other way around. I did the analysis first and then was impressed that the date actually came to that fateful date all the prophecies are going crazy about – 2012.

I find this coincidence remarkable. I think we all are aware of many economic and political disasters that will unfold if the USD were to actually collapse. The US economy would stop dead for a period of time. And, the rest of the world, hitherto dependent on the old industrial/consumer economic model will have to find a new economic paradigm to plan their economies…

Let me interpret that last paragraph for you – The USD collapse means the entire structure of the world economy will collapse for a period of time, with a collapsed supply chain, among other things. The world will also go through cataclysms politically during that period. That usually leads to massive wars… starvation and mass homelessness – around the world…

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« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2009, 04:24:10 PM »

Is this the prelude to a new video game being released?  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2009, 04:41:49 PM »

Is this the prelude to a new video game being released?  Roll Eyes

Could be, do you still remember the game that had Georgian spec-opts shooting Russians a year or two before the real thing?
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« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2009, 04:42:19 PM »

Here's a recipe you can cook up in the kitchen of God:

-Take one genus
-Add a touch of time for seasoning
-Sauté for ~2,000,000 years
-Simmer for  ~ 400,000 years
-Bring to a boil over a period of ~ 2,000 years
-Season with sage gingerly
-Remove from heat source when species has had enough.

As any good cook knows, a watched pot never boils.
But boil it will.  

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Ik

Edit: boiling doesn't happen all at once until it does
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« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2009, 04:44:26 PM »

More from the article:

What would happen in a USD collapse?

• The US and Western economies will all face insolvency simultaneously, with the US first in line.
• The entire Western industrial/consumer/credit economy will fall apart so fast it will make your head spin. The supply chain will stop and stores will empty in less than 3 days.
• The USD will fall over 50% in one week’s time, till it temporarily stabilizes before its final last gasp. Remember the Lehman panic over those several weeks? You have seen nothing yet.
• Worldwide currency panic will set in paralyzing what’s left of the world economy, that means the ‘emerging markets’ stop dead too.
• China has a revolution, or goes into military mode, which is worse.
• A one world currency will be demanded and implemented, and it better be fast too since the cities only have 3 days food on average…(by the way I know for a fact that a one world currency can be implemented electronically and turned on in one hour, if they wanted!)

And so on. How will Asia fare? Horribly. Look, if you based your entire economic plan on Western consumerism, and that goes away, so does your plan. It’s dead. If Western consumerism goes away, then the entire foundation of the Asia macro economy instantly crashes and stops cold. Do you remember what happened that fateful last quarter of 2008, after the Lehman debacle, and the world banking system almost collapsed en masse? Exports from China and Japan for example collapsed over 30%!

Don’t think economic demand cannot stop on a dime, because we already had one very scary case of this last year.

So, all the pundits aside, Asia gets killed too economically. The big question is, can they successfully adapt to a new economic paradigm before they have their own revolutions? I do not think so.

It will be a dark time worldwide.

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« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2009, 05:02:39 PM »

This article reinforces the belief, as published by Mr. Whitley Strieber in his book "The Master Of The Key", that the consumer economy is a trap and once it is sprung we will suffer greatly. As for this trap I don't like to think of it as a mechanism designed to harm us but just think of it for what it is - a huge problem. This article reinforces our beliefs that putting your life in the hands of the grocery stores and their JIT delivery system is stupid.
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« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2009, 05:03:16 PM »

Well- that is some hard doom'n. It makes sense to me. Thank you
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« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2009, 01:46:57 AM »

FWIW: Keep an eye on the pound Sterling (UK). The US economy appears to lag 1 to 2 years behind Britain considering that their real estate market collapses about 18 months before the US.  I don't think a USD collapse will happen in 2012.
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« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2009, 02:15:44 AM »

This article reinforces the belief, as published by Mr. Whitley Strieber in his book "The Master Of The Key", that the consumer economy is a trap and once it is sprung we will suffer greatly. As for this trap I don't like to think of it as a mechanism designed to harm us but just think of it for what it is - a huge problem. This article reinforces our beliefs that putting your life in the hands of the grocery stores and their JIT delivery system is stupid.

warning, thread drift ahead!

Scotty, do you read Whitley's work?
I haven't read Master of the Key yet but it's on my list.

ok, drift corrected, return to original course.  Grin
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« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2010, 03:17:25 AM »

No one knows what the hell is going to happen. These shills get paid to put out this crap just like Al Gore got paid for his b.s. No crap, no pay. Simple.

Anyone here that doesn't have six months of food/water, a weapon, decent informed neighbors, etc better get cracking. Worst thing you can do is put it off thinking 2012 when it could happen next week.
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« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2010, 10:25:41 AM »

It takes one spark to ignite this bed of fluff they have created. I believe you have it right. The modeling done by many people allows for a timing to be determined but more importantly, it paints a picture of what the world can look like and ideas of what to do to try to prepare for it. There are many things being done to slow this boulder from rolling back down the hill we have been pushing for so long and all it takes is for one of those things to slip up and the boulder rolls freely over the top of those not quick enough to get out of the way....unless you were smart and moved out of the way well before hand.
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« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2010, 11:17:08 AM »

This article reinforces the belief, as published by Mr. Whitley Strieber in his book "The Master Of The Key", that the consumer economy is a trap and once it is sprung we will suffer greatly. As for this trap I don't like to think of it as a mechanism designed to harm us but just think of it for what it is - a huge problem. This article reinforces our beliefs that putting your life in the hands of the grocery stores and their JIT delivery system is stupid.

I havent read the book but Im curious to know more about that particular statement from him, can you expand on it a little?
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« Reply #12 on: January 01, 2010, 06:59:22 PM »

It appears that most articles and opinions have narrowed the collapse to 2010-2012. Seems most of the 2013-2020 guesses have disappeared, and rightly so. Also, the number of opinions stating more of an overnight or within a week collapse have gained momentum. We all talk a good bit about when and why. I am more concerned about what happens after the fact. A collapse is inevitable from what I see. So what happens after the feared crash? I think the ensuing panic and chaos will be FAR worse then most do. There is no way in hell people will just sit in their doorways and starve to death. Gangs and thugs will rule the streets, how can it be any different? You all have heard many times that the grocery shelves would be empty in about three days. What will most do then? They will have NO CHOICE but to steal, rob and cheat. They will without hesitation kill anyone who stands in their way to the treasure trove of beans and spam. The single MOST important prep you can have is WEAPONRY and PLANS. Thinking your ready because you have rooms full of food and candles is just being naive. If you can't protect what you have, you don't have it!..............................Bruce
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« Reply #13 on: January 01, 2010, 08:35:50 PM »

It appears that most articles and opinions have narrowed the collapse to 2010-2012. Seems most of the 2013-2020 guesses have disappeared, and rightly so. Also, the number of opinions stating more of an overnight or within a week collapse have gained momentum. We all talk a good bit about when and why. I am more concerned about what happens after the fact. A collapse is inevitable from what I see. So what happens after the feared crash? I think the ensuing panic and chaos will be FAR worse then most do. There is no way in hell people will just sit in their doorways and starve to death. Gangs and thugs will rule the streets, how can it be any different? You all have heard many times that the grocery shelves would be empty in about three days. What will most do then? They will have NO CHOICE but to steal, rob and cheat. They will without hesitation kill anyone who stands in their way to the treasure trove of beans and spam. The single MOST important prep you can have is WEAPONRY and PLANS. Thinking your ready because you have rooms full of food and candles is just being naive. If you can't protect what you have, you don't have it!..............................Bruce

Isn't that the truth........but also you need to be mentally prepared to kill your fellow
human being. Most are in no place to do that but the mob mentality will quickly set in
and people will be killed left and right. Get ammo.......LOTS OF AMMO
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« Reply #14 on: January 02, 2010, 12:23:27 AM »

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It appears that most articles and opinions have narrowed the collapse to 2010-2012. Seems most of the 2013-2020 guesses have disappeared, and rightly so. Also, the number of opinions stating more of an overnight or within a week collapse have gained momentum.

Who are you talking about? I assume you don't mean in media in general, just the doomer milieu, right? Well, what does that mean, then?That doomers are getting more doomerish?
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