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« on: June 28, 2009, 07:38:31 PM »

http://www.culturechange.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=472&Itemid=1
The Slope of Dysfunction, Dmitry Orlov, originally posted 6/25/09. Nations whose oil production peaks after the global peak will not be able to make up for decreased production by increasing imports, so the US production graph understates the post-Peak drop. We don't have decades to get ready, assuming earth doesn't start importing oil from other planets (he humorously brings that up, i wonder how many will actually take him seriously Grin ).
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« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2009, 07:54:23 PM »

I love his alien oil importation chart.   Grin

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« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2009, 07:58:14 PM »

Orlov cracks me up - and scares the pee outta me - at the same time. 
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« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2009, 07:59:43 PM »

Thanks for this article!!!!!

I was trying to explain this very thing to someone last night at a party..lol....great party conversation. The person suddenly got leg cramps when i explained that the reason the USA survived the oil crises in 1970 was because of imports from the ME, and the major finds in the gulf of Mexico. If those places are now beginning to run low..then who is going to make up for that production deficit.

Dmitri came to the right conclusion..only aliens from outer space can save us. now I have a case of leg cramps...lol

Just bought more rice, beans and ammo...lol
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« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2009, 08:08:16 PM »

Also in the '70s, Alaska's North Slope, and the North Sea.
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« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2009, 11:24:47 PM »

The oil that is going to save us all can't be drilled because of the damn environmentalists. Forget aliens...if we just round up all of those weird tofu eating hippies and send them to the gulags, we will then be able to enjoy happy motoring for all eternity and infinite growth forever and ever...Amen.


This is how my very educated family thinks...but i think certain ones of them are finally catching on.
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« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2009, 12:23:52 AM »

MY LEG!!   MY LEG!!
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« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2009, 12:57:46 AM »

The misinformation among people is amazing. Some of my neighbors and former co-workers are of the opinion that America just capped most of our real productive wells, after the first oil shocks of the 70's, and the big plan is that we will use up all the ME oil first and then un-cap our wells and be masters of the world. The first time I heard that I was slack-jawed in disbelief. That moment was twenty years ago and I'm still hearing it. I gave up presenting logic and fact to these people long ago. My attitude is- "Have A Nice Disaster". Grin
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« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2009, 01:05:13 AM »

The misinformation among people is amazing. Some of my neighbors and former co-workers are of the opinion that America just capped most of our real productive wells, after the first oil shocks of the 70's, and the big plan is that we will use up all the ME oil first and then un-cap our wells and be masters of the world. The first time I heard that I was slack-jawed in disbelief. That moment was twenty years ago and I'm still hearing it. I gave up presenting logic and fact to these people long ago. My attitude is- "Have A Nice Disaster". Grin
Yeah, some in my family are still relying on the "hope" and "change" from Borama.  One even said that the worst is over and that the economic recovery is coming soon.  Cheesy
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« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2009, 01:05:38 AM »

The misinformation among people is amazing. Some of my neighbors and former co-workers are of the opinion that America just capped most of our real productive wells, after the first oil shocks of the 70's, and the big plan is that we will use up all the ME oil first and then un-cap our wells and be masters of the world. The first time I heard that I was slack-jawed in disbelief. That moment was twenty years ago and I'm still hearing it. I gave up presenting logic and fact to these people long ago. My attitude is- "Have A Nice Disaster". Grin

i got into a mondo argument with this doc at work yesterday...bastard followed me out to my car yelling at me... calling me a fucking weirdo cause i believe in peak oil...  dude is from Trinidad... says if it wasn't for oil he wouldn't be where he was in life blah blah blah...  didn't care that the beaches where he played as a child are now not even approachable in places...   tried to force feed me a line of crap.. basically repeated every thing you just posted.

you are correct, sir...    part of me can't help but wonder if his problem, and people like him, is just that on some level they know we are right...and it is too painful for them to deal..
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« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2009, 01:48:18 AM »

part of me can't help but wonder if his problem, and people like him, is just that on some level they know we are right...and it is too painful for them to deal.. 
That's a huge part of the problem.  Another is that people are kept at a very low level of understanding anything, particularly things which require science and quantitative reasoning.

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« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2009, 02:07:05 AM »

Yeah, they don't want to hear it. Like plugging your ears and yelling "LA-LA-LA". I don't really care about most folks, to me family and friends come first. With the rest of the 6.5 billion people on Earth my attitude is "mind your own business". BUT it is just so frustrating to be unable to get through with the message with the ones I love. What we could accomplish together! Just pooling our resources, even at this late date, would make us so damn secure. But what will happen is they will be "thunderstruck" by events and come to me, beggars bowl in hand, and I will feed them.
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« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2009, 02:20:28 AM »

Including the picture of the grey alien on the right hand side of the PO graph = classic!  Grin
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« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2009, 06:17:11 AM »

We've all heard the "we're just saving our US oil for when we need it" Or "When I was in Wyoming the guy at the ranch showed me all these wells just waiting for the price to be right."

I asked the guy if those wells could do twenty million barrels a day. He said "Well, dumbass it aint like he aint got neighbors."

I stand corrected, nothing to see here move along.

Aliens trading recipes? Yeah for roast human fricassee.
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« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2009, 06:56:29 AM »

We've all heard the "we're just saving our US oil for when we need it" Or "When I was in Wyoming the guy at the ranch showed me all these wells just waiting for the price to be right."

I asked the guy if those wells could do twenty million barrels a day. He said "Well, dumbass it aint like he aint got neighbors."

I stand corrected, nothing to see here move along.

Aliens trading recipes? Yeah for roast human fricassee.

ITS A COOK BOOK!  ITS A COOK BOOK!  (The Twilight Zone)   Grin

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