Folks - serious stuff here, not to be paranoid - regarding posting on the net

[max_power]

Remember, that the Kahre defendants were not exonerated but simply had a hung jury on all accounts.   The IRS had never provided a ruling on  taxability of Federal Specie because they have a huge problem based on long standing Supreme  Court cases. They have  provided  rulings on taxability of bullion.  Specie and  Bullion are not the same thing.

You can read the conundrum in   7 Ling Su Fan v. U.S.   among other SC cases.    Sovereignty, meaning Congress, may set any value it wishes  for legal tender purposes. If the market value of specie composition exceeding face is taxable so is the loss value of composition  of a Federal   Reserve Note exceeding face deductible  among other things.    

They do have a problem and it must be driving them bonkers.

So then inflation would be tax deductible?

[gasman]

Remember, that the Kahre defendants were not exonerated but simply had a hung jury on all accounts.   The IRS had never provided a ruling on  taxability of Federal Specie because they have a huge problem based on long standing Supreme  Court cases. They have  provided  rulings on taxability of bullion.  Specie and  Bullion are not the same thing.

You can read the conundrum in   7 Ling Su Fan v. U.S.   among other SC cases.    Sovereignty, meaning Congress, may set any value it wishes  for legal tender purposes. If the market value of specie composition exceeding face is taxable so is the loss value of composition  of a Federal   Reserve Note exceeding face deductible  among other things.    

They do have a problem and it must be driving them bonkers.

Yup.

So then inflation would be tax deductible?

[Jeromie]

I had an answer for max-power a couple of hours ago but lost it!    So I need to get back to the issue.  In short though,  taxability  is transactional.  There is a gain that is taxable based on gain over the value of the specie involved or there is a deduction for loss based on the value of the specie involved.

Sovereign currency and coinage values on exchange are absolute.  Roosevelt's people gave you a $20 Federal Reserve Note for a $20 gold piece.  They law does not contemplate that and I doubt the Treasury understands how to get around the problem.   Consequently they will not litigate the direct issue or rule on it. Even in this case they allege fraud rather than address the specific question.  How does one derive a TAXABLE gain on the same state's own currency and specie? How can there be a gain when as specie and currency they only  recognize $50.   Since taxable income and loss is recognized on the very currency unit involved they have no measurement base.   

They have a very insoluble problem where they corrupt the law either way they go.  There are Supreme Court limits  here that are very long standing.  The SC has directly said market value of the content of specie is irrelevant.  If that is relevant there is no legally taxable gain.

 They do have a conundrum.

[Rëdŗeameŕ]

But this is not about the gold is it?

[max_power]

But this is not about the gold is it?

Whoever has the guns (along with the minds of the trigger pullers of the guns) makes the rules; is what its about.


Also, whoever has control over the reserve currency gets the (bestest/mostest) guns

[Dry Observer]

Anyone who wants to read my article about the 2006 Cyber Storm wargame exercises pitting the U.S. against "anti-globalization activists, underground hackers, and bloggers" launching massive attacks across the Internet is welcome to do so.

The original article I discuss in that post has been taken down. As has my original blog post, of which the above linked piece is but a copy.

[SabreKai]

Anyone who posts on the internet thinking his comments are anonymous is a fool. So smart people won't be posting threats, lies or anything else potentially harmful. Dummies on the other hand, will be posting all that stuff. So let it come as a surprise to them when the FBI/PD/Delta Force/Green Berets/RCMP/MI6 or other members of the alphabet soup gang come to call.

Sabre.

I'm going to TP your house, Sabre. I'll be there tonight wearing an Ed Grimely mask and flying a rebel flag. Just you wait...

I hope you have some a tall ladder or some really long stilts Kush, its 3 storeys tall!   
And I'lll be ready to repel boarders with my Super Soaker!

Sabre.

[gasman]

Anyone who posts on the internet thinking his comments are anonymous is a fool. So smart people won't be posting threats, lies or anything else potentially harmful. Dummies on the other hand, will be posting all that stuff. So let it come as a surprise to them when the FBI/PD/Delta Force/Green Berets/RCMP/MI6 or other members of the alphabet soup gang come to call.

Sabre.

I'm going to TP your house, Sabre. I'll be there tonight wearing an Ed Grimely mask and flying a rebel flag. Just you wait...

I hope you have some a tall ladder or some really long stilts Kush, its 3 storeys tall!   
And I'lll be ready to repel boarders with my Super Soaker!

Sabre.

......I hope that's not just a pet name for his.......you know....

You may want to rethink your strategy Kush until we get this cleared up.

[Kushtaka]

Anyone who posts on the internet thinking his comments are anonymous is a fool. So smart people won't be posting threats, lies or anything else potentially harmful. Dummies on the other hand, will be posting all that stuff. So let it come as a surprise to them when the FBI/PD/Delta Force/Green Berets/RCMP/MI6 or other members of the alphabet soup gang come to call.

Sabre.

I'm going to TP your house, Sabre. I'll be there tonight wearing an Ed Grimely mask and flying a rebel flag. Just you wait...

I hope you have some a tall ladder or some really long stilts Kush, its 3 storeys tall!   
And I'lll be ready to repel boarders with my Super Soaker!

Sabre.

......I hope that's not just a pet name for his.......you know....

You may want to rethink your strategy Kush until we get this cleared up.

 

[zwick]

I don't believe I brought this up in this forum...But...Does anyone really think that TPTB give a red rat's ass about you? That they will scour the various forums looking for enemies? If you're busted for something serious and they grab your computer, yes. But the few thousand souls posting on sites like this don't mean shit to them. Think about it: if "they" were concerned about the observations, ranting, and thinly veiled threats of the citizenry of this sheep pen country we live in, there wouldn't be an internet for us. At all. If we posed a threat to them than why can people still buy gas masks, body armor, military-style rifles, de-watt grenades, kevlar helmets, and on and on? The simple truth is that they like forums, and people ranting and raving. It acts like a release valve on a pressure cooker. You can go to marches, meetings, send e-mails, letters to the Gov , protest, pose and threaten on the internet all you want. It don't mean shit. The war goes on. The bail-outs go on. The looting continues. Oh, sure, one can point to some tiny change and declare victory with your letter writing campaign about a local issue. But the big things won't change. Do you think for one moment that America got out of Vietnam because of the protesters? We quit cause we were broke. Nixon decoupled us from the gold standard once and for all in 1971 cause we were broke. The exit took a little longer. So 27 years after Vietnam we are in the ME. Except this time we have endless money-just "print" it! And soon our economy will be toast, except this time we the people are truly f--ked. We'll have a poor nation forever. If we even have anything left to call a nation. And you can have all the bullets, beans and bandaids you want, it won't mean a thing to TPTB. They'll be on their paradise islands or their guarded complexes laughing  and laughing.

[HowlinJack]

www.hidemyass.com

Why?  Because fuck you for wanting to know where I go on the net.  I'll make it just that much more inconvenient.

As to the issue of TPTB wanting to know what I do on the net?  I'm sure the super computers these days know almost instantly what is posted on the net and by whom and whether or not that content should be flagged for further examination.  I'm sure that all voice conversations are subject to the same almost near instant analysis...

[Macs UK]

www.hidemyass.com

Interesting site. What I don't get though is how can they offer all these free services, and PAY sites to use others, yet I don't see an income stream anywhere (well, one single Google ad....)

So is it the real deal or a honey trap

[Kushtaka]

www.hidemyass.com

Why?  Because fuck you for wanting to know where I go on the net.  I'll make it just that much more inconvenient.

As to the issue of TPTB wanting to know what I do on the net?  I'm sure the super computers these days know almost instantly what is posted on the net and by whom and whether or not that content should be flagged for further examination.  I'm sure that all voice conversations are subject to the same almost near instant analysis...

Let me say HONESTLY that there are far more 'posts' and 'posters' for further examination than the budget can POSSIBLY keep up with.
Take it for what it is, but really, unless you -personally- attract a lot of attention at some point in your life, all entertainment of thought that you are being electronically tracked is pure ego.

[houseoftang]

unless you -personally- attract a lot of attention at some point in your life, all entertainment of thought that you are being electronically tracked is pure ego.

Well, some of us would like to leave that option open. . . 

[bagpiper]

Guys/Gals,

The Tor network.

http://torproject.org

Complete encrypted anonymizer sub network. I've been experimenting with it and it works, if slightly slower than normal. 'They' would have to have monitors at both ends of the net, the server and the client networks, just to get your IP.
THE IP that is logged here on the right>>> is NOT Mine, but will show up from different random parts of the WORLD.

YMMV
Enjoy.