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scoob
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« on: June 08, 2007, 05:18:55 AM »

I'm somewhat discouraged that I can't post questions about the reality of Peak Oil here. I mean I don't expect all 3000+ users are 100% convinced, in fact I know this because I'm not. It would be nice to post articles or whatever debunking peak oil and have intelligent discussion to help air doubts. This would help convince me more vs a block on all such discussions which sounds a bit dogmatic to me.

I suppose it would be a moderation nightmare, in which case can anyone point me to a forum where the reality of peak oil is debatable?
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Anasazi
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« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2007, 07:29:11 AM »

Check out the Oil Drum
http://www.theoildrum.com/
Have fun.
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« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2009, 05:07:27 PM »

Debating Peak Oil began in 1956, when Hubbert proposed his theory on a general bell curve for conventional oil supply.

In 1956, the US military reinforced a permanent presence in the Mediterreanean and other Middle East oilpatch waters.

In 1956, President Eisenhower signed the National Interstate Defense Highways Bill, motorizing freight transport as never before.

In 1956, General James A. Van Fleet authored a condensed version of the US Army Transportation manual, emphasizing need to retain railway Operating & Maintenance Battallions, based on his concerns of homeland attack and overdependence on imported oil.   He also outlined railway "Second Dimension Surface Transport Logistics Platform" attributes, and usefulness in natural/manmade disaster recovery.  The booklet, "Rail Transport And The Winning Of Wars" was a response to the US Highway mania coming to the fore.   Van Fleet urged continued existence of the entire existing US Rail Network; branchlines and still operating Interurban Electric lines.   His pleas went largely unheeded as we now witness.    Copies of Van Fleet's book can be obtained from the AAR Library (202-639-2100).

Circa 1956, the Secretary of Defense refuted Van Fleet, saying the famous line: "What's good for GM is good for America..."

Putting the 1956 transport model on the table is an interesting and efficient means of meeting the twin challenges of Climate Change and Peaking Oil.   Let's say you believe neither is true.    Then, simply consider the importance of railway matrix keyed to disaster recovery.    Hurricanes and earthquakes are with us even without bad boys attacking.    To see the US Rail matrix footprint of 1956 is easy enough: go to spv.co.uk; they offer US Rail Map Atlas volumes, showing rail lines past and present.   Rebuild dormant rail corridor by traffic volume priority, add renewable source energy.   So easy, even a civilization tottering on the brink of collapse can do it!

The present debate on Peaking Oil, such as it is, delays crucial requirement to emplace alternative (rail & local warehousing interface transport, much needed "Guarantor of Societal & Commercial Cohesion" as supplies of liquid motor fuel flatten then diminish year on year.
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« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2009, 05:09:35 PM »

Try PeakOil.com.
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