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« on: November 18, 2008, 07:25:43 PM »

Obviously not out yet, but check out the trailer if you have high bandwidth:
http://www.moviefone.com/movie/2012/30165/main

Tinfoil goes to the big screen!
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« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2008, 07:32:11 PM »

Wow - that was really cool! My kind of movie. I can't wait.
One of my favorite books is Apocalypse 2012 by Lawrence Joseph. It's not a story - but a look at the circumstances surrounding 2012 - from prophecies to events that are actually occring. A really good read - if you like that kind of thing.
Now - I'll have to be watching for the movie!!!
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« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2008, 07:33:25 PM »

I do like that trailer... what will governments do to prepare you for the end of the world? Nothing. Google 2012.

What movie trailers ask you to do any sort of research? Nice twist.
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« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2008, 08:00:25 PM »

I've been researching 2012 on my own for several years now. You wouldn't believe all of the events that are set to happen at that particular time! Mayans or no Mayans.
And what is our government doing to let us know? Nothing. Exactly.
In fact - our government denies any of the events that are possible to occur during that time.
FROM MY BOOK I HAVE WRITTEN - BUT WILL PROBABLY NEVER PUBLISH


On December 21, 2012 the Earth’s equator will be in direct alignment with the center of the Milky Way galaxy. Does this mean the Mayans foresaw that certain events would happen at that time? Or does it mean that specific cosmological consequences occur in the presence of this 26,000 year alignment? There is a difference between predicting future events, and knowing that a cycle will be at a specific point in time and space.

Of course, in some of my research I have read theories that the Mayans were from another planet or galaxy, another time, or even from another dimension. Since I was not present at that time, I have to admit that I don’t know who the Mayans were, or how they knew about the workings of the solar system and it’s cycles to the extent that they did. I do know that they were here and that they had knowledge that was far beyond their ability to know. Therefore, I’m open to explanations from others as to the how and why of this. Each theory comes from a place of having a belief they are trying to prove – which according to our new quantum science already means that the outcomes are going to be slanted because the theorist’s beliefs and views influence what they are researching.

One of the circumstances to be considered in the Mayan calendar ending date is the beginning of a solar magnetic storm which is scheduled to hit its’ highest intensity around the time of 2012. Our sun regularly goes through cycles, with storms that affect the magnetic qualities of our earth. We are just now beginning a new cycle of storms, and no one is sure how the increased magnetic intensity of these storms will affect the earth’s magnetic field today.

We are aware that many animals are guided by magnetic fields in the earth. A change in the magnetic intensity will affect their migration and homing patterns. Also, many of our communication and technological systems react to magnetic frequencies, so there is strong possibility that a change in magnetic intensity could affect the performance of our modern technologies. It has also been found that the human brain contains “millions of tiny magnetic particles.”  Science, Vol. 260, June 11, 1993. (29)
The fact that our bodies contain millions of magnetic particles would also explain why medical conditions can react to magnetic interventions.

The last solar maximum came at a time when we are beginning to use more magnetic responsive technology. Heaven only knows what an increased magnetic interference will create this time – and this series of solar storms are supposed to be stronger than the one 12 years ago. So what type of interference did the last solar maximum create?
•   Solar storms during the period of peak sunspots in 1989-91 caused power failures in Canada and Sweden, made some computers crash in the United States, and destroyed or damaged several satellites. It changed the computer programming inside orbiting satellites.
•   During the sunspot peak in 1989, a blast of solar energy arriving at Earth shut down the electrical power grid in the Canadian province of Quebec, leaving six million customers in the dark for a day.
•   Global Positioning System (GPS) satellites tell users where they are within a few feet. If, for instance, solar energy caused them to provide less accurate data for a few hours, that could cause problems for airplanes landing.
The increased amount of technology that we are using today has amplified the destructive capability of solar storms in our lives. We have become so technology dependent that a “blip” in its functioning can create unbelievable amounts of chaos and mayhem, not to mention longer lines in the checkout lanes. Imagine if all the computers in our stores shut down at once for several days. Can you imagine store clerks trying to manually figure out the price of your goods – and then determine your change? And then there’s gas pumps, banks, ATM’s, … we’ve created a life that is so dependent upon the use of a computer that temporary loss of computer ability could throw us all into turmoil.

According to the Mayan calendar the earth passes through a “Great Cycle” in it’s path through the universe; it is a very long cycle of 5,125 years. On the Mayan calendar, the current Great Cycle began in 3113 BC and ends in AD 2012. Jose Arguelles, Ph.D. believes that the Mayan calendar is measuring a 5,125 year mathematical wave that is affecting the earth that fluctuates in intensity throughout different periods. The question becomes what do these energy waves and frequencies mean to us on earth? Since the frequencies tend to be mathematic in their make-up, it follows that they are not random waves. And if they are not random, then we need to ask not only what do they mean to us, but also how are they produced? And then, how in the world did the Mayans know about them and measure them in the first place? How did the Mayans have mathematical information about the workings of our universe that we are only now beginning to realize exists?

I’ve read articles and books describing various possibilities of how the Mayans did what they did. And I’ve read the skeptics debunking answers to any theory offered. But the skeptic’s theories are as full of holes as any of the “far out” theories I’ve read. What I’ve determined from all of this is that no one knows how the Mayans did what they did. I’ve also learned how a person’s beliefs and preconceived ideas can greatly influence what they “buy” as being a good answer.  To use an extreme example, if you believe that there are intelligent beings from other planets who have visited earth, then a theory that comes from that perspective seems logical to you. If you believe that people who ‘believe that intelligent beings from other planets could have visited earth’ are all nuts, then a theory that comes from this perspective will immediately cause you to cringe and disregard anything that person says. On the other hand, the skeptic who is using a theory that disproves that there could be intelligent beings from other planets seems logical – to other skeptics. But to the believer in intelligent life in the universe, the skeptics’ perspective seems ludicrous and closed minded. Who is right? Both are. Both are right when coming from their own beliefs and their own perspective. Our perspective is another way that we create our world.

The above discussion of the effects of magnetics on the earth lead me to the subject of magnetic pole shifts. A pole shift is the shifting of the magnetic pole, which is a common occurrence. But I found three different types of pole shift theories. 1) There is a pole shift that is created as the magnetic pole slowly migrates over time; 2) there is a pole reversal theory where the magnetic poles flip directions, where the magnetic north needle would begin pointing south instead of north; and 3) another reversal theory where it is believed that the earths’ crust can slip and cause the magnetic poles to be relocated – this last one is not as accepted by all scientists. This 3rd theory is based on the belief that the earth’s crust has shifted before, several hundred thousand years ago, causing extreme weather changes and the extinction of several species of animals. Many people believe that is what is getting ready to happen in our near future. There are scientific articles, and not-so-scientific articles, about pole shifts. And when is this pole-shift supposed to occur? Why around 2012 of course.
We all like stability in our lives, especially when it comes to planet-wide phenomena, such as the daily appearance of the sun or the periodic change of season. So it can be unsettling to learn of global phenomena that are inherently unstable, unpredictable. Such is the case with the Earth's magnetic field. Every so often, our planet's magnetic poles reverse polarity . Compass needles have always pointed north; in a reversal, they would point south.
You could perhaps take comfort in the knowledge that these reversals happen infrequently—on average every 250,000 years—but maybe not when you consider that it's been over 700,000 years since the last reversal, and the next one may be currently underway.  (30)
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/magnetic/reversals.html


When Compasses Point South

If all the compasses in the world started pointing south rather than north, many people might think something very strange, very unusual, and possibly very dangerous was going on. Doomsayers would have a field day proclaiming the end is nigh, while more rational persons might head straight to scientists for an explanation.
Fortunately, those scientists in the know—paleomagnetists, to be exact—would have a ready answer. Such reversals in the Earth's magnetic field, they'd tell you, are, roughly speaking, as common as ice ages. That is, they're terrifically infrequent by human standards, but in geologic terms they happen all the time. Hundreds of times in our planet's history the polarity of the magnetic shield ensheathing the globe has gone from "normal," our current orientation to the north, to "reversed," and back again.  (31)

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/magnetic/timeline.html


As you can see from the two articles above, magnetic pole reversals are rare, very rare, but also normal in our earth’s history. The question becomes, is a pole reversal occurring now?  The influx of magnetic changes occurring in our universe simultaneously does create a higher probability that something out of the ordinary could take place. The only thing we can do is wait and see.

A slippage in the earth’s crust is still an unproven theory, but for several scientists it seems likely that it has also occurred in our earth’s history. These scientists believe that a sudden shifting of the earth’s crust would explain how Wooly Mammoths were found frozen in mid stride. Supposedly there are things that we can look for that would indicate that the shifting of the earth’s crust was about to happen. Among them are:
•   the world clock beginning to lose time and needing to be adjusted,
•   animals losing their migratory sense of direction, because their migratory sense is based on the magnetism. And as the magnetic north pole shifts, it causes confusion in their honing abilities.
•   One person even said that “as the earth crust begins to rotate, it will create a fine rest dust which will cause the rivers and lakes to turn red”… taking us back to the Biblical verses of Armageddon.
And why does this become relevant at this time? Well, it seems that not only is our sun set to experience a sunspot maxima, affecting the magnetic pull of the earth in 2012, but also the sun will be experiencing a “peak pull” in it’s gravitational system at the same time. A peak pull is the sum total of all of the gravitational and magnetic pulls on the sun from the Solar Systems center of mass. And just to keep it interesting the Sun’s magnetic poles are on a cycle to reverse polarity at that exact time – 2012. (Apocalypse 2012 – Lawrence E Joseph – pgs. 113-114) (32)
And then there is Nostradamus… I find that his predictions are flexible according to who is interpreting his writings. I admit that I can’t understand what he is saying. It’s not his fault that I don’t understand… he was writing in a time where he is describing things that haven’t been invented yet. For example he says in Quatrain II-92, “Fire the color of gold from the earth to the sky” – this is interpreted to mean nuclear weapons. It could be. It could mean something else too.
Several times Nostradamus mentions in his Quatrains the New City located at forty five degree latitude. This is believed to be New York City. There is to be a geological earth shift which will begin with earthquakes and volcanic eruptions. Continents will be split. World War III will be started by a President with a strong Cancer Influence. Uh-oh wasn’t President Bush born on July 6th?
And of course it is believed that all of this will culminate around the year 2012.

CROP CIRCLES

While we are on the topic of 2012, I wanted to bring in the controversial subject of Crop Circles. There are many people who believe that Crop Circles are a communication from “somewhere” about the events that are to happen. But before you think I’ve gone off the deep end, somewhere doesn’t necessarily mean UFO’s and men from outer space, it has also been suggested that it could be people from our future trying to warn us.

I was surprised to learn that Crop Circles were still being found in fields all over the world. It seems that our media and newspapers and government, again, have kept this from us. We, the American Public, were told that all Crop Circles were bogus and faked, and therefore our media does not even report information about them to us. In America, any mention of Crop Circles puts a person in the category of being weird. But it seems that other countries have more factual information than we do. In the past, I felt sad for the other countries because their government and media kept information from them. Little did I know that it was my media and my government who were hiding the facts. I was really surprised to learn that there was a Crop Circle formation in Indiana this past summer. The media in Indiana did not report it. But it was reported in England.

Crop Circles seem to be based on complicated mathematical equations, which are being decoded and are thought to be sending us a message. A message of a “time of change,” a “time of catastrophe.” Sound familiar? Even a message warning of a life-altering event that, according to some of the interpretations, will occur in the year 2012.

Global warming has been found to be threatening our natural parks, wildlife, glaciers, coral reefs, weather patterns, crops, gasoline usage, water sources, air quality, the ozone layer, economics, disease susceptibility, forest fires, insect invasions, and humans. But these predictions of science are still not believed by many. I have noticed that lately, more people are starting to believe. Baby steps are being taken. But are the steps being taken too small, and too late?

Right now, we have the future of our world in our hands. The choices we make will decide whether we create a new type of earth, a more habitable earth, or whether we create chaos, increased pollution, increased wars, and destruction. Science agrees that it is our choice right now to create the future. But which choice will we make? Which prediction will be realized? Or will we bypass all of the predictions and create a new type of earth, a new more harmonious life, on our own?

Oil is a major factor in our survival right now. Not getting MORE of it , like some people try to say. But in using less of it. We need to change our addiction to oil. And it is an addiction. We are destroying our world in our rush to get another  ‘fix” of oil. And denial is a major part of all addictions. We are a world in denial about our addiction to oil. Instead of trying to fight for oil rights and dig for more oil, we need to come up with more creative ways for fuel sources that don’t require oil. In fact sources that don’t require a limited source of fuel at all. We are “limited” only by our imagination. We are letting our addiction to oil lock us into a belief system that closes out the option of other fuel sources. Digging for more oil only creates more destruction to our planet, and an increase in the heating of our planet. But of course there are still those of you who do not believe that climate change is real. Our current government has done an overwhelming job of hiding the truth from us. And why would they do that? Because it increases their finances and their power.

Yellowstone Park sets atop a huge underground volcano called a “caldera’. In the past three years the magma, or molten lava, has been on the move and increasing the pressure beneath the park causing a rising in the levels in the ground itself. The scientists themselves were surprised to learn that  “The valley is rising up slowly and the mountains are dropping down.”   (35)    (By Sara Goudarzi Staff Writer updated 2:19 p.m. ET, Thurs., March. 15, 2007 © 2008 LiveScience.com. All rights reserved.)
 This is the opposite of what was expected, because usually the valley would be dropping down and the mountains would rise if an earthquake were imminent. Since the opposite is occurring, the scientist now believe that something entirely different is occurring in Yellowstone Park. The pressure in the underground volcano is increasing. The volcano has not erupted for 640,000 years. Does this mean that it is due to erupt?
It has been reported that ground surface temperatures in some areas of Yellowstone have reached 200F degrees causing some areas in the park to be closed to tourists. There have also been rumors that terrorists have been discussing ways to cause this caldera to explode. Do they not understand that if the caldera beneath Yellowstone were to explode it would not only destroy a large part of North America, but also cause long lasting consequences to the rest of the world? The ash residue alone would cause a covering of ash between the earth and the sun that would effectively block the suns light and heat creating severely cold temperatures instantaneously.

We’ve all heard of Armageddon in the Bible. Whether we believe in it literally, figuratively, or not at all is up to the individual. I have to admit that I was amazed to learn that there are people who believe in Armageddon so intensely that they are trying to ensure that it occurs. Fundamentalists groups are building a theme park in Israel at the sight of Armageddon hoping to earn a front row seat. This new park is scheduled to be completed in – take a guess…. Give up?
                                               2012
 Lawrence Joseph  wrote in his book  Apocalypse 2012 that there is a new Christian theme park being built by the Armageddonists at the site of the biblical Armageddon. It will be completed in 2012.
Will the prophesied  final battle begin in 2012 at the site of the Armageddon theme park? Is Sarah Palin the  “one before the endtime”? Is she be the one prophesized by my uncle William Branham? And does “one before the endtime” mean one election before the endtime? If so, the next election is in 2012....











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« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2008, 11:58:44 AM »

Cool information... whoa, is your uncle really William Branham?!
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« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2008, 12:49:13 PM »

I love movies with a happy ending!
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« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2008, 03:32:56 PM »

Kiss my ass. Now I will spend the rest of the day looking at 2012 stuff.  Smiley
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« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2008, 04:24:29 PM »

Kiss my ass. Now I will spend the rest of the day looking at 2012 stuff.  Smiley

Damn the internet and it's easy-access-information-free-for-all!!  Grin  It's no wonder I can't get anything done on the weekends . . .  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2008, 04:51:53 PM »

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« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2008, 05:04:36 PM »

oh wow, what a cool movie!!!!
I can't wait!
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« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2008, 10:04:15 AM »

I can't see what all the fuss is about. It's a monk being hit by a wave. Get one to go to the beach and you can see the same thing. Grin

Honestly, I'm not holding my breath for being able to see it. Not that I would anyway.
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« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2008, 10:08:38 AM »

How did they get all that water there?  Hollywood is way more amazing than anything real.  I suppose that's why we've substituted it!

Imagine the community of cool Tibetan surfer-monks that will emerge, streaking their hair and chanting old Beach Boys songs....
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« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2008, 11:31:47 AM »

Just a movie.

Someone needs to remember to give this thread a bump on 01/01/2013. Hopefully by that time with a new President, I will be driving my next car, a fully electric, plug-in. I love my car now, it is pure sex on wheels, but he mileage sucks.

This is the next Y2K scare.

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« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2008, 11:40:28 AM »

Okay, how I passed this thread up I don't know!!

But they'd better hurry and get that movie out, or it'll be the REAL end of the world and we won't be able to see it.  Tongue

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« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2008, 11:45:29 AM »

Word-  You are AWESOME!!

Re:  Crop circles.  I don't get into them too much.  I've looked at the web sites and I feel about them like I feel about ETs:  who knows?

I will say this, however:  Whoever is doing the latest ones, it sure as shit isn't someone with a two-by-four and a rope.  It might be some super-secret government deal.  But it's definitely not what the debunkers try to tell us it is.

Some of those things are so beautiful I just can't believe it.  True art.
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