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« on: October 07, 2008, 12:12:35 AM »

Obviously I need validation.  I've been telling everyone since april that it's all going to end and no one believed me.  As bad as things are, it feels good on some level, and I am ashamed.
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« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2008, 12:28:35 AM »


Here’s one level it SHOULD feel good: you were smart, and you were right.

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« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2008, 01:12:43 AM »

No, doom is fun and all until it starts to happen in real life  Undecided
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« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2008, 02:30:44 AM »

Obviously I need validation.  I've been telling everyone since april that it's all going to end and no one believed me.  As bad as things are, it feels good on some level, and I am ashamed.


It's called Schadenfreude (link)

Schadenfreude (IPA: [ˈʃaːdənˌfʁɔʏ̯də] is enjoyment taken from the misfortune of someone else. The word referring to this emotion has been borrowed from German by the English language. The word derives from Schaden (damage, harm) and Freude (joy); Schaden derives from the Middle High German schade, from the Old High German scado. Freude comes from the Middle High German vreude, from the Old High German frewida, from fröh, (happy). A distinction exists between "secret schadenfreude" (a private feeling) and "open schadenfreude" (Hohn, a German word roughly translated as "scorn") which is outright public derision.

Now, I "feel" for the little guy, yes that's true, the wife, the husband who is the small fish in the big pond. The small shop owner, the girl standing behind the counter for hours as she tries to look cheerful as the hours tick past and the gut-churning feeling that a lack of customers (and thus income) will not stop the outgoings (ie: bills and so forth).

At first anyone can ignore the overwhelming feeling of impending disaster, they rationalise that it's a quiet day, the customers will return.

But the customers don't return. The ones they DO see look grimmer and grimmer, purchase less and less, and say less and less. The fools who rent the space out refuse to believe that times are tight. The shop space rent stays the same , the wages are still needing to be paid.

This is when the reality turns out to be the long, lonely path...how CAN one talk about "it"? The betrayal of one's dreams - after all one wasn't really asking much, just the chance to "make a go of it." To speak of this is to speak of the smashing of one's dreams and the
shattering of one's heart, and one's mind revolts at the thought. Besides - what the heck will TALKING do? Indeed, the talk will only make it worse, to dwell on this is worse than the thing endured. This is one of the reasons why psychoanalysis is such rubbish.

No, what is needed is for the person to meet someone else for whom an explanation is NOT needed.

So, to "rub it in" to those in this situation, THAT is wrong. Better to be sympathetic - let them know quietly that you knew this was coming and tried to warn, but...the person will feel genuinely relieved that SOMEBODY can see it coming. Help such people any way you can. Practical help is best ("you can save money by...") It's especially helpful to quietly let them know about the fact that you - and a few others - did try to warn, but, well... this will help, honestly.

Won't help MUCH. But to meet someone who has SOME form of knowledge, just a bit...people really are thirsting for GENUINE knowledge, not the fantasy that the free market offers. Offer the knowledge, but do so in as sympathetic and non-overwhelming way you can.

And FER CRYING OUT LOUD, go easy on the Peak Oil, OK?

But what of those who caused this? While I recommend forgiveness, I also insist that the rats come clean. They owe it to everyone to tell the truth and put up with the disgust and distrust they have so RICHLY earnt. A full, public disclosure of their wrongdoing and their lifetime dedicated to trying fix the mess. No weaselling out of responsibilities.

Towards those who caused this, I highly recommend as much schadenfreude as you can humanly express.
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« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2008, 02:36:11 AM »

You feel bad already?  Shocked

Gaw wait till people are killing eachother in the streets and you just had to shoot your neighbors kid for trying to steal your tomatos.
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« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2008, 02:37:26 AM »

The neighbor's kids throw rocks.
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« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2008, 06:06:38 AM »

The neighbor's kids throw rocks.

To know that this is an inappropriate response shows you as an ethical person. We cannot control our gut reactions. We can control how we respond to them and you are doing that. Dont feel too bad. Just turns out you're human Smiley
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« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2008, 06:14:16 AM »

I have been telling people for 5 years.

Barely anyone remembers though, all of a sudden they are all experts.
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« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2008, 07:12:36 AM »

Oh, but I do enjoy telling my father "I hate to tell you I told you so, but I told you so." in regards to the stock market.  I told him to get out Sept 07' when I did.  He didnt listen.  I think he lost like $30k.  I sent my parents and sister a short email saying if they have not done it to stock up on dry/canned goods, bottled water.  More then likely they will just gafff me off, despite the economic cirisis going on around them.  They are such sheeple.
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« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2008, 07:19:33 AM »

i can say that i don't feel any sick satisfaction about this.  and " if"  this is the fan that has been so loudly proclaimed.  all i feel is resolve to not go under.  i have prepped and prepared and i feel that i am as ready as a person could get unless they owned norad.  Cheesy

the only thing this thing has done for me is make me work more hours.
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« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2008, 03:25:36 PM »

Another day, another covert, black op, false flag... run to Costco.  There can be no shortage of drama for our preparations for THE COLLAPSE OF CIVILIZATION.
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« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2008, 03:29:04 PM »

I feel no sort of satisfaction, but perhaps that is because my nearest and dearest have been on board for awhile.

Honestly, I feel like I'm still running around in sort of a denial about it....maybe that's why I have no "Told you so" response.  I just keep waiting for the other shoes to drop. 
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« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2008, 08:50:49 PM »

I finally got some ackowledgement from my mom. She said to me the other day, that I was the only one who saw this coming and have been saying so for years. And she works around financial "geniuses" and visits wall street on a regular basis for client work. Fortunatelyy I was able to convince my sister to sell her mcmansion in LA at the peak of the market.  I also got an email from her on one of the big down days saying , "you were right it's ARMAGEDDON". So I get some satisfaction in being recognized for being right. But no schadenfrude for me (or however you spell it, too lazy to look it up). Just deep sadness. I can barely look at kids anymore.
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« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2008, 11:48:18 PM »

There is a scripture which says do not rejoice overmuch at the defeat of one's enemy.

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« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2008, 11:58:06 PM »

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I have been telling people for 5 years.

Barely anyone remembers though, all of a sudden they are all experts.

LOL ollie, that made me chuckle!
it is so true around here.
for years now, I've been the crazy old lady carrying on about the end of the world, LOL
now they are all talking like they told me about it.
I don't care though.
Somehow, not a whole lot seems to matter to me anymore.
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